A Women’s Boxing Hall of Fame

By Ted Sares on June 6, 2013
A Women’s Boxing Hall of Fame
Like Christy Martin in the US, Regina Halmich left a great legacy for the sport in Europe.

Women’s professional boxing has long since exploded beyond the borders of the United States and is now accepted on a global basis…

“Unless women get more recognition, we will be fighting just as a novelty for the rest of our lives. There will be no future.”—Marian “Lady Tiger” Trimiar (1987)

“It took the sight of a female boxer bleeding like a stuck pig while winning her fight that put our sport on the world’s media radar in 1996!”—Christy Martin bio (www.wban.org/biog/cmartin.htm)

The Current Landscape

Women’s professional boxing has long since exploded beyond the borders of the United States and is now accepted on a global basis with many key fights taking place in Europe and South America. Today’s landscape is dotted with skilled performers like Christina Hammer, Jessica Rakoczy, Susi Kentikian, Susie Ramadan, Marcela Eliana Acuna , Cecilia Braekhus, Yesica Yolanda Bopp, Monica Acosta, Jackie Nava, Ava Knight, Carina Moreno, Anne Sophie Mathis, Myriam Lamare, Ina Menzer, Alicia Ashley, Melinda Cooper, Jessica Chavez, and Layla McCarter.

With a nod to Latinas, the combatants come from everywhere and anywhere and many will fight everywhere and anywhere (Japan, South Korea, Australia,  Mexico, Argentina, Russia, Czech Republic, Germany, France, and the United States) to prove their worth and earn a living—and they often will do this regardless of size or weight. In this regard, catchweight bouts occur with a startling frequency with boxers moving up or down several levels to get the appropriate matchup.

Thirty-four-year-old Layla McCarter (35-13-5), known as “The Amazing,” may be the best of the current bunch, though she started slowly going 1-4-1 in her first six professional outings. But then she found her groove and has not lost since 2007 when she dropped an MD to Melissa Hernandez. Last year, she knocked out in sizzling fashion South Africa’s Noni Tenge in South Africa no less. She is on a 12-fight win streak and is now calling out the undefeated (but overhyped) Cecilia Braekhus. The Las Vegas boxer (by way of Ontario, Canada) has been fighting since 1998 and has exceptional technical skills. Adding to her gravitas, she has won world titles in the featherweight, junior lightweight, lightweight and junior middleweight divisions.

The super-skilled Jessica “Raging” Rakoczy (my personal favorite) can box or brawl depending on the situation. She is a three-time WIBA World Champion and two time former WBC Lightweight Champion. In January 2013, she won the vacant WIBA Women’s International Boxing Association super bantamweight title against Ada “Ace” Velez (20-5-3). “She really is the fastest fighter I ever fought…I’d say she is the best fighter I ever fought,” 62-fight veteran Mia St. John said after losing a UD in 2004. As further testament to Jessica’s abilities, she lost a controversial SD to the highly respected Jenifer Alcorn back in 2003 in a bid for the vacant IWBF International Women’s Boxing Federation lightweight title

“Raging” has gone 2-0 against a prime Mia St. John, 3-0-0-1 against teak tough gatekeeper Belinda Laracuente (26-27-3), and 1-0 against a young McCarter. She also TKO’d England’s rugged Jane Couch in 2005 and beat slick Cindy Serrano three years later. Rakoczy’s stellar record stands at 33-3-0-1.

Speaking of Laracuente, a New Yorker by way of Puerto Rico, no one in female boxing has faced tougher opposition (although long-in-the-tooth Dakota Stone comes close). Her opponents include Rakoczy (three times), McCarter (twice), Mathis, Jamie Clampitt, Holly Holm, Melissa Del Valle, Duda Yankovich, Missy Fiorentino, Chevelle Hallback, Ann Saccurato (whom she beat 2005 in a giant upset), Mary Jo Sanders, Sumya Anani, Christy Martin, and Myriam Lamare (twice). For those who follow women’s boxing, this partial list reflects the very best of the best in women’s boxing.

A Virtual Hall of Fame

As good as these women are, their hope of ever getting into a Boxing Hall of Fame is slim. In fact, to my knowledge, there is no such place exclusively reserved for them. However, on October 24, 2009, undefeated Lucia “The Dutch Destroyer” Rijker became the first female to be inducted into the World Boxing Hall of Fame, which is the smaller of the two recognized boxing halls, the other being the International Boxing Hall of Fame in Canastota, New York.

In the absence of anything more definitive, let’s just call this my effort at establishing the first “Virtual Hall of Fame for Women Boxers” with the following nine fighters (in chronological order) as my INITIAL inductees.

Christy Martin (1989-2012)

“Not only was the bout between…Martin and…Gogarty…more competitive than the typical prelim, but it had more action and better boxing than the main event…and there was gore to boot, all of it Martin’s. After Gogarty rocked her in the second round Martin bled wildly from the nose; it was a harmless injury, but eye opening for the fans who were expecting Foxy Boxing.”—Richard Hoffer (Sports Illustrated)

While there were several top notch female boxers in the 1970s and ‘80s including Carolina Svendsen, Pat Pineda, Cathy “Cat” Davis, Lady Tyger Trimiar and Jackie Tonawanda, female boxing really didn’t grab hold until the 1990s when Christy “The Coal Miner’s Daughter” Martin broke the walls down. This boxing pioneer was already a three-time world champ when she met Deirdre Gogarty (from County Louth, Ireland) on the undercard of the highly anticipated Frank Bruno-Mike Tyson title fight at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas in 1996.

The fight, which was televised by Showtime, was a gory and brutal one that would provide an indelible memory for the millions who watched it. By the second round, blood gushed from Martin’s nose onto her pink trunks and by the fourth, both fighters were going after each other like a carpenters pounding on nails. While Deirdre had problems with Christy‘s fierce body attack and incoming bobbing and weaving pressure ala Mike Tyson, she responded brilliantly and was still on her feet at the end of a rousing and fierce war that supercharged female boxing more than any other single event. The fight made the covers of many magazines, and fans of Women’s Boxing considered it the female version of the “Thrilla in Manila.” Women’s Sports and Fitness magazine said the fight “ripped down the cutesy veil that had relegated women to the foxy-boxing fringes of the sport.’” The perceived “cutesy” had been replaced by no-nonsense, blood-spattering fury. Oh yes, Martin won by a six-round decision moving her record to 29-1-2.

Outside the ring, Martin endured a turbulent personal life but that’s a story for another day. Suffice it to say that Christy now resides happily with her partner and continues to train to stay in shape. Her last bout on August 14, 2012 was an upset loss to a somewhat shopworn Mia St. John after which “The Coal Miner’s Daughter” announced her retirement finishing with a 49-7-3 record and a legacy of being a true trailblazer in a new era of technically skilled and highly competitive female boxers.

As for Mia St. John (47-13-2), she is still fighting though her best days are behind her.

Regina Halmich (1994-2007)

This German-born female flyweight boxer was the German champion in kickboxing as an amateur in 1992, 1993 and 1994, a year in which she also earned the European title. As a professional boxer, she fought in five different weight divisions, and is among the most successful female boxers of all time. More to the point, Halmich helped popularize female boxing in Europe and her remarkable 54-1-1 record remains unmatched.

Halmich was a master boxer with one of the best jabs in female fight history. She won titles in the junior flyweight, flyweight and super flyweight divisions beating many high quality fighters along the way.

Her only loss was on cuts to Yvonne Trevino in 1995 for the vacant WBF Women’s International Boxing Federation flyweight title in a short but hard-fought affair in which both were on the canvas in the first round. The fight was held at The Aladdin in Las Vegas. Two months later, Halmich won the title by beating Kim Messer in Germany by SD. Her one draw, a controversial one, came in a 2004 fight for the WIBF Women’s IBF flyweight title against the capable Elena “Baby Doll” Reid out of Las Vegas, Nevada. Regina avenged the draw by beating “Baby Doll” the following year also in Germany.

On July 28, 2007, in Dusseldorf, Germany Regina retained her WIBF flyweight title with a 10-round unanimous decision over Wendy Rodriguez of Los Angeles. Then on November 30, 2007 in Karlsruhe, the 31-year-old Halmich claimed a final 10-round decision against Hagar Shmoulefeld Finer of Israel to finish her boxing career before an adoring capacity crowd of 7500.

Only Laila Ali came close to Halmich’s success in capturing the media attention and the financial rewards. And like Christy Martin in the US, Regina left a great legacy for the sport in Europe. What’s more, she reportedly earned about €10 million over her entire boxing career, thanks largely to the media popularity for women’s boxing that she herself had created—an achievement that has inspired younger German fighters to following in her footsteps with an eye to obtaining solid financial rewards for their efforts.

Lucia Rijker (1996-2004)

“I don’t want to think that someday Lucia will be walking with her kids and someone will point to her and say, ‘There goes the greatest female fighter who ever lived, but she never had a defining fight.’ That would be so sad.”—Emanuel Steward

“She (Rijker) generates more power in her punches than [Ann] Wolfe. Her right hand is by far the hardest I’ve ever felt…Rijker’s technique and speed is what sets her apart. Wolfe’s punches kind of push through the target, whereas Rijker’s are the quick, snappy kind that shut the lights off.”— Deborah “Sunshine” Fettkether

Sometimes called “The Most Dangerous Woman in the World,” Lucia won the WIBF super lightweight title in 1997 and the IBO light welterweight title in 1998. Her Muay Thai record was an astounding 37-0 with 25 KOs (she holds five world kick boxing titles). She moved into traditional boxing in 1996 and launched a dominating career that often would be marked by difficulties in finding willing opponents; in fact, at one point, scheduled opponents canceled out of four consecutive matches. In many ways, the “Destroyer” was too good for her own good.

Toward the end, Lucia beat Brit trailblazer Jane Couch in 2002 and then garnered win number 17 in a dominant 10-round decision over game and talented Deborah “Sunshine” Fettkether on May 20, 2004. Rijker said of Sunshine, “I was glad to have someone who wanted to fight, so I was happy we found a great warrior.” Rijker was then scheduled to fight Christy Martin on July 30, 2005, in a Bob Arum-promoted main event at the Aladdin in Las Vegas, but Lucia ruptured an Achilles tendon while training and the match had to be cancelled thus costing the fans a blockbuster of a fight and Lucia and Martin the biggest payday of their careers.

In 2006 Rijker stated that she would only consider one more fight—a bout with Laila Ali, but it never came off. She then retired with a perfect record of 17-0 with 14 KOs. A strong argument can be made that Lucia is the greatest female boxer of all time.

Rijker portrayed Billie “The Blue Bear” in the 2005 Academy Award winning motion picture “Million Dollar Baby,” appearing alongside Hilary Swank, Morgan Freeman, and Clint Eastwood. In fact, she trained Swank for her role in the acclaimed film. Now 45 years old, Lucia is an actress and has appeared in a number of film productions.

Ann Wolfe (1998-2006)

“We offered Laila and she agreed something like half a million dollars. You know how much I was supposed to get? Seventy-five thousand dollars. Then, I told them ‘you’ll have to give me more,’ and they were going to give me 150,000, while she was going to make 500,000 thousand, and that is the God’s honest truth, and it was signed and Laila STILL didn’t show up.”—Ann Wolfe

Many will remember Ann “Brown Sugar” Wolfe by her frightening knockout of Vonda Ward—generally considered the most spectacular knockout in women boxing history. While the best seldom fight the best in female boxing, this was not the case when in mid-2004 Ward, the 6’6” WIBA light heavyweight champion, faced the hard hitting multi titleholder—but underdog—Ann Wolfe. Ward, considered a premier fighter, was unbeaten in 18 fights having won 15 of those by KO and was calling out Laila Ali. Instead, she got the hardcore Wolfe. What WAS the case here and is frequently so in women’s boxing is that combatants are often forced to fight each other regardless of large disparities in weight. In this connection, Wolfe was a junior middleweight who was eager to show she belonged at the top.

Ward, known as the “All-American Girl,” was a former basketball player who made “Parade All American” high school teams twice. She then became a member of Pat Summit’s fabled Lady Vols, playing in one NCAA basketball championship game in 1995 during her college career at Tennessee.

As for the fight, it was over in 68 seconds as Wolfe landed a concussive right as Ward was jumping in, knocking Vonda out instantly and, at the same time, horrifying ringside observers. As a result of the devastating knockout, Ward suffered a neck concussion and was hospitalized for a short time. Thankfully, she went on to win several more times before retiring with a 22-1 tally. Wolfe finished with an equally splendid record of 24-1 and then became a successful trainer with James Kirkland as one of her on-again-off-again charges.

Ann’s lone loss came by way of early stoppage to another wolf—Valerie “The Big Bad Wolf” Mahfood in 2000. Ann avenged the loss threes year later thus beating every fighter she ever faced. As for the brawling Mahfood, like the aforementioned Laracuente, she fought everyone imaginable, finishing with a deceptive 19-14-4 record

Laila Ali (1999-2007)

“When Laila fought Martin, Martin wasn’t shit. She just went 10 rounds with Mia St. John, and after that, she done lost most of the time. You see how she lost, she was done already. I’d rather see Laila fight somebody like Lucia Rijker. Lucia would probably whoop Laila.”—Ann Wolfe

“She’s bad.”—Muhammad Ali

A possible misconception regarding women’s boxing may be that Laila Ali represented its best face, but given the level of her opposition and her reputation for avoiding other top boxers even though they called her out, perhaps a few other fighters arguably could be ranked above her. However, “She Bee Stingin,” who possessed quickness, mobility, reach and power, finished with a solid 24-0 record with 21 KOs. Among her victims were Jackie Frazier-Lyde (daughter of Joe Frazier) whom she beat in a spirited and entertaining eight-round slugfest before 8,000 fans in upstate New York, and an outgunned and smaller Christy Martin who normally fought as a welterweight. “She was just too big,” said Martin, “she was in great shape and she kept on coming. She still fights like an amateur, but all around she was just too big.”

Ali’s fight against Lyde was one of the closest of her career, though her fight against Erin Toughhill on the undercard of Tyson-McBride in 2005 was an extremely violent beatdown along the lines of her father’s win over Ernie Terrell back in 1967.Toughill and Ali disliked each other and Ali, showing an aggressive nature, made her pay.

In retrospect, it a shame that the naturally gifted Laila Ali never squared off against the likes of Rijker, Ragosina, Ward, Wolfe, and even Leatitia Robinson.

Giselle Salandy (2000-2008)

“Those whom the Gods love die young.”—Anonymous

The holder of an eye-popping eight international boxing titles, including Women’s International Boxing Association (WIBA), World Boxing Association (WBA) and World Boxing Council (WBC) titles, which she successfully defended in her last fight—which took place on Boxing Day against the Dominican Republic’s Yahaira Hernandez and moved her professional record to 17-0. Her list of achievements is massive and her titles include the WBA, WBC, WBE, IWBF, WIBF, WIBA, and GBU

Sadly, the undefeated Trinidad and Tobago boxing champion died following a vehicular accident on the outskirts of Port of Spain on January 4, 2009. The 21-year-old boxing sensation succumbed to her injuries at the Port of Spain General Hospital.

She is not only considered Trinidad and Tobago’s greatest ever female fighter but also arguably their greatest fighter regardless of gender.

Holly Holm (2002-2013)

Three words come to mind when one assess Holm: quickness, speed and agility. Known as “The Preacher’s Daughter,” Holm is an 18-time world champion in three separate divisions.

A year ago while still boxing, the 31-year-old New Mexico native won the WBF, IBA Female and WBAN welterweight titles by avenging a vicious mind-numbing knockout loss to France’s Anne Sophie Mathis that is a highlight reel for female prizefighting. Then in May 2013, after announcing she was planning a full-time move to MMA and would be retiring from boxing, she earned a decision victory over Mary McGee.

In her final 28 bouts, Holm suffered just one loss. Her current record is 3-0 MMA and 33-2-3 boxing and has generally been considered to be at the top of the rung in today’s female boxing scene. Now, however, she has signed a multi-fight deal with the Texas-based Legacy Fighting Championship and will move in a new direction.

Mary Jo Sanders (2003-2008)

“This girl is unbelievable—her speed, her power. That’s the kind of girl that can make women’s boxing.”—Jackie Kallen

This rugged albeit beautiful light middleweight and superb all-around athlete out of Detroit is also the daughter of NFL Hall of Famer Charlie Sanders. Fighting often and winning often, she progressed rapidly garnering Rookie of the Year honors along the way.

In a highly anticipated bout in 2008 with Holly Holm, “The Preacher’s Daughter” won via decision. The two had a rematch four months later and fought to a rousing draw. It was the last time Sanders fought. Her final record is 25-1-1.

Natascha Ragosina (2004- 2009)

This attractive 5”11” super middleweight from Karaganda, Kazakhstan retired with a perfect record of 22-0, diminished ever-so-slightly by the fact she fought all of her bouts except one in her resident homeland of Germany.

On March 15, 2008 in Magdeburg, Germany, Natascha (aka “Miss Sledgehammer”) added the IWBF and WIBC super middleweight belts to her collection with a one-sided unanimous decision over Teresa Perozzi of Bermuda. Ragosina entered the fight with the WIBF, GBU, WBA, WBC and WIBA belts and left it with a record seven as she improved her record to 17-0 with 11 KOs.

In December 2009 in Ekaterinburg, Russia, a fit and ready Natascha (172 lbs.) won the vacant WIBF heavyweight title with an eighth-round KO of short and rotund Pamela London (237 lbs.) of Georgetown, Guyana, who was nothing more than a big bag that rarely punched back. A short and crisp right hand shot to the head finally decked London face first as the adoring Russian crowd went bonkers sensing that this might be the end of a great career, one in which Ragosina had been the longest reigning super middleweight champion in history; she also had an amazing record of 16-0 in world title fights and as icing on the cake, she retired as the undefeated champion.

Jenifer Alcorn (Honorable Mention)

With a final record of 18-0, Alcorn enjoyed a short but distinguished career (1999-2004) marked by wins over Jessica Rakoczy, Mia St. John, and Melissa Del Valle.

The Future

As women’s boxing evolves, more participants will be inducted into more Halls of Fame including the Amateur Athletic World Hall of Fame Museum, the World Boxing Hall of Fame, various state boxing Halls of Fame, and Halls of Fame in other countries. Hopefully, this will eradicate once and for all any notion that women’s boxing is more spectacle than sport. The days of two fighters flailing away at each other in an amateurish manner have long since been replaced by technical stylists who have a firm grasp of the fundamentals and who know precisely what they are doing at all times while in the ring.

Taking this one step further and to quote women’s boxing expert Jill Diamond, “I hate the term ‘Women’s Boxing.’ This isn’t a team sport. It’s not Basketball. It’s not Baseball. It’s not a Book Club. It’s comprised of freelancers—athletes, coaches, managers, cut men, officials—and gender should have nothing to do with it. So, as far as I’m concerned, there’s only good boxing and bad boxing. Personally, I like good boxing.” (NABF news.com 2012)

Based on this sage observation, maybe there should not be a Women’s Boxing Hall of Fame after all—and maybe what the World Boxing Hall of Fame did with Lucia Rijker is the correct way to go.

What do you think?

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  1. Scott Burt 10:17am, 02/09/2014

    Bare Knuckle Boxing Hall of Fame in Belfast, New York, to hold Tribute to Women in Boxing July 12, 2014, at their annual Inductions.  This year’s Class of 2014 is all WOMEN!  Christy Martin to be present.  Google us, and also send us your email address and we’ll send you the press release.  Scott Burt, Coordinator

  2. From Facebook 06:31pm, 11/27/2013

    I skrivandes stund så mår jag förhållandes vis riktigt bra:) en dag där 8 km’s rundan kändes lätt och huvudvärken lindrigare.
    När dagen startade så kunde man inte mer än dra på smilbanden och tro att det en dag kommer vara över. Men om bara hälften försvinner är jag hemskt tacksam ändå:)). Veckan innan har annars varit lite si och så. Allt vad det gäller från huvudvärk till frustrationen att inte kunna göra allt man kunde göra förut.
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    Hello!

    In the writer’s time so I feel really good:) BAIS, a day in which 8 km’s round felt easy and headache less severe.
    When the day started so it was not more than drag on smil links and think that it one day will be over. But if only half disappears I am awful thankful yet:)). The week before has otherwise been a bit si and so. Whatever the case, from headaches to the frustration of not being able to do everything you could do before.

    Many people ask exactly what kind of injury I got so here’s a simpler explanation: my injury is a cerebral hemorrhage. The bleeding occurred between hard meninges and the brain, where a blood vessel burst.
    What then happened was that it was filled with blood and a pressure against the brain was created.
    It is then forced to open up the left side of her head and quickly stop the bleeding and empty out the blood.

    Because the bleeding came right on my left side, it is this which can be affected: ‘s, memory, language comprehension, personality change and depression.

    I met with my medical team the other day where they went through lots of exercises to see where i am located in rehab. What we have seen is that the physical part of movements and strength is better than what the mental recovery bit is, such as brain fatigue, memory, sound/light sensitivity, headaches and stress factors.

    In conclusion, I once again got explained to me by the doctor to exercise is the best medicine in my case so work out on!

    It made me happy:)!

    Have a really nice weekend!!!! continue

     

  3. From Facebook and Sue Fox of WBAN 07:48am, 07/26/2013

    Sue Tl Fox

    WBAN PETITION: To all—-please take a few moments to sign the petition that WBAN has put up in regards to increasing the weight classes for the 2016 Olympics. A decision was reached today to keep it only at three weight classes, and WBAN is petitioning this.

    http://www.change.org/petitions/petition-increase-weight-classes-for-female-boxers-in-2016-olympic-games-in-rio-de-janeiro#

  4. Ted 07:29am, 07/10/2013

    Audley,  UConn women’s basketball is precisely what I meant. They are all about what fundamental basketball used to be. Women’s boxing is like watching a training video though without the violence (for the most part) Christy Martin was the very first who got out there and fought like boxers are supposed to fight. She was the trail blazer.

    Thanks for posting.

  5. Audley 06:38am, 07/10/2013

    I had said in an earlier post that women boxers can put on a great show, but Don from Prov summed it up with one word: heart. Ted, great examples of the Celtics under Red and women’s college basketball. I love college ball, of course biased towards UConn since I grew up in Connecticut.
    Just watching some of the videos you posted, the heart can be seen over and over again.

  6. Ted 05:56am, 07/10/2013

    Good analogy. I also like women’s college basketball for the same reason. They remind me of the old Boston Celtics under Red.

    Thanks for you posts, Prov, and I’d like to know about Krav Maga which I DO know was started by a Hungarian-Jew

  7. Don from Prov 03:31am, 07/10/2013

    Yes, I’ve noticed in Krav Maga that women often have better fundamentals—


    And a LOT of heart

  8. Ted 07:09pm, 07/09/2013

    Thanks Prov. Actually, Women’s boxing is something I DO follow to the consternation of most of my friends. I have my favorites just as I do in Men’s boxing.  I like it because of the way they follow fundamentals and tend to do things by the book. Makes it interesting for me. I also like the tremendous competiveness and level quality of the thing in that the rankings continue to change all the time with someone new emerging..

    Make sense?

  9. Don from Prov 10:01am, 07/09/2013

    Though perhaps not your favorite subject, bang-up job anyway!

  10. Ted 12:56pm, 06/25/2013

    In the third paragraph, I said that refereed to Cecilia Braekhus as being but overhyped. Someone ( Hege Dancke Stølan ) called that to my attention via email. He was correct as I should not have refereed her in that that manner. Fact is, she is not overhyped but is the number one ranked female fighter in the world in the opinion of most serious and creditable observers of the sport..

    Let the record show my correction.

  11. From Facebook 07:20pm, 06/23/2013

    Interview with Diana Prazak after knocking out Frida Wallberg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOZ3i9OR1Wc

  12. Ted 07:46am, 06/18/2013

    http://theboxingtribune.com/2013/06/womens-boxing-the-wallberg-vs-prazak-report/

  13. From Facebook 05:26am, 06/18/2013

    Jill Diamond Chastain updated her status: “UPDATE: Frida is now out of ICU and in a private room! Looking good!”

  14. Ted 06:21am, 06/17/2013

    Yes, it appears that they have.

  15. dollarbond 06:06am, 06/17/2013

    Great news.  Prayers have been answered.

  16. From Facebook 03:37am, 06/17/2013

    From Facebook:

    Frida Wallberg #women’s boxing update: The Swedish press is reporting some very good news. It seems she is awake and in full control. It’s also been reported that the bleed was not an internal brain hemorrhage, but a blood vessel at the outer edge between the meninges and the brain. This is all very good in terms of her recovery and likely she will be kept in the hospital for another 5-6 days. Meanwhile, the matter is being investigated by Swedish boxing authorities.

  17. Ted 03:42pm, 06/16/2013

    Thanks Sharon.

    Actually this thread broke out into two stories as Frida Wahlberg was injured and fighting for her life. Thankfully, she won the fight and is on the way to recovery. I was thinking about a separate story, but the issue has been vetted by other writers so ‘m just posting important developments here as they unfold.

  18. MissSharonCobbb 03:36pm, 06/16/2013

    Ted,
    Wonderful story.
    Women’s boxing will be no more unless they open for main events on a semi-regular basis.

  19. From Facebook 03:35pm, 06/16/2013

    important links including video of fight. Frida is on road to recovery Prayers have been answered.

    http://leifpm.com/2013/06/16/frida-wallberg-waked-up-and-talking-about-her-fight-at-once/

    http://leifpm.com/2013/06/15/video-frida-wallberg-vs-diana-prazak/

  20. From Facebook 06:22am, 06/16/2013

    “Jill Diamond Chastain updated her status: “From Claude Jackson… excellent news!!

    Dear Friends,

    Frida has woken up at the hospital and has responded very well to treatment. She has made a statement to the media: “I am all right, again!”

    Right now it seems she will be able to make a full recovery. I will keep You all posted.

    All The Best
    Olaf”

  21. Ted 01:00pm, 06/15/2013

    UPDATE 1: According to press accounts from Sweden, Frida was partially brought out of her coma and has had her medications reduced to assist in the process of bringing her to consciousness. That will reportedly happen at about 4:00 PM, 6.15.2013, Swedish Time. No word was given on the state of her injuries or likely prognosis. The press is continuing to state that she suffered a stroke.

    UPDATE 2: Wallberg was reportedly awakened, was able to move her fingers and answers questions, but from what could be gleaned, she has likely been re-sedated somewhat to allow her time to heal. There is some cause for optimism, but no answer yet on whether she will make a full recovery from the stroke–and things are still very serious at this point. She remains in the hospital in intensive care.

  22. Ted 11:14am, 06/15/2013

    The sisterhood (and brotherhood) of boxing is a tightknit family and now we are seeing the beauty of that family as it comes together to give its love. It makes me proud to be a part of this wonderful group. May God watch over this fighting champ and also give comfort to Diana.

    Quick Update from Mark Jones:.

    “The Surgery went as well as can be expected. The Doctors briefly woke Frida from her sedation to check eye movement. But decided to sedate her again. The plan is to try and wake Frida in a few hours. The major factor is waking Frida without causing her to become stressed as they must not cause her Pulse to race as that could increase the likelihood of a re-bleed on the brain.”

  23. Ted 10:54am, 06/15/2013

    Thanks Jofre and Kid

  24. kid vegas 09:03am, 06/15/2013

    From Henderson, Nevada and Lake Las Vegas. This is what I have from Facebook so far: “After a Stroke doctors had to open Frida’s skull and drain blood to remove the pressure. She is currently on a ventilator to help her to breath She apparently had an MRI on her brain two weeks ago that was clean—so unless she got really hurt in training, it was likely the accumulation of hard punches in the fight that caused the swelling”

  25. Dan Cuoco 08:16am, 06/15/2013

    My thoughts and prayers are with Frida and her family!

  26. Ted 07:35am, 06/15/2013

    And note that Frida is #11. How sad.

    BTW, Mark tried to post this before last night’s fight.

  27. Mark A. Jones 07:33am, 06/15/2013

    WOMEN’S BOXING POUND-FOR-POUND RATINGS:
    1- Cecilia Braekhus (22-0, 6 KO’s) Welterweight, Norway
    2- Erica Anabella Farias (16-0, 9 KO’s) Lightweight, Argentina
    3- Ava Knight (12-1-3, 5 KOs) Flyweight, USA
    4- Christina Hammer (14-0, 7 KO’s) Super middleweight, Germany
    5- Jessica Chavez (18-3-2, 4 KO’s) Light flyweight, Mexico
    6- Yesica Yolanda Bopp (24-1, 11 KO’s) Light flyweight
    7- Anne Sophie Mathis (27-3, 24 KO’s) Light middleweight, France
    8- Jelena Mrdjenovich (29-9-1, 14 KO’s) Featherweight, Canada
    9- Melissa Hernandez (18-4-3, 6 KO’s) Featherweight, USA-Puerto Rico
    10- Layla McCarter (35-13-5, 8 KO’s) JMW/WW, USA
    11- Frida Wallberg (11-0, 2 KO’s) Super featherweight, Sweden
    12- Esmeralda Moreno (25-6, 9 KO’s) Light flyweight, Mexico
    13- Melissa McMorrow (9-3-3, 1 KO) Flyweight, USA
    14-Delfine Persoon (24-1, 10 KO’s) Lightweight, Belgium
    15- Amanda Serrano (17-1-1, 12 KO’S) FW/ JLW, USA-Puerto Rico
    16- Naoko Fujioka (10-0, 6 KO’s) Minimumweight, Japan
    17-Fernanda Soledad Alegre (15-1-1, 7 KO’s) Light welterweight, Argentina
    18- Alicia Ashley (19-9-1) Super bantamweight, USA
    19-Ronica Jeffrey (13-0, 1 KO) Super featherweight, USA
    20- Alejandra Marina Oliveras (30-2-2, 15 KO’s) Featherweight, Argentina

  28. Ted 07:27am, 06/15/2013

    This is very good news. Prayers are being answered.

  29. Meinhard Schmidt 07:23am, 06/15/2013

    she is awake now, is able to move her fingers and answer to questions, doctors are optimistic according to reporter leif magnusson. she suffered a stroke and a cerebral herromage though.

  30. Ted 06:02am, 06/15/2013

    http://www.aus-boxing.com/2013/06/15/di-prazaks-bittersweet-wbc-title-victory-over-frida-wallberg/

    According to one of my sources, “The brain surgery went well but they cannot promise anything until she is awake. Really sad, the hits didn’t look that bad to me, maybe the fact that she lost weight before this fight affected the brain negative?”

  31. Ted 05:49am, 06/15/2013

    Thanks Meinhard. This is very sad.

  32. Meinhard Schmidt 05:24am, 06/15/2013

    http://www.boxingscene.com/frida-wallberg-bad-shape-suffering-tko-loss—66646  lets hope and pray for her to recover…

  33. Ted 06:20pm, 06/14/2013

    There was a big title fight tonight in Stockholm between undefeated champion Frida Walberg and Diana Prazak. who won by TKO in the 8th round in a major upset. Lucia Rijker was in Walberg’s corner.

    The bad news is that Frida was carried out in a stretcher and reportedly is undergoing brain surgery. I hope this report is wrong. Prayers are extended to Frida.

    I am trying to get more info on this as events unfold,

  34. Ted 05:02am, 06/14/2013

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO CHRISTY MARTIN WHO INSPIRED A WHOLE GENERATION OF FEMALE BOXERS IN THE LATE 80’S and 90’S!!! MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS.

  35. Ted 02:56pm, 06/13/2013

    Thanks Jofre. That’s great praise coming from you.

  36. jofre 12:33pm, 06/13/2013

    Ted, great informative article. Women’s boxing has come a long way from its early humble beginnings.

  37. Ted 11:49am, 06/13/2013

    http://sweetboxingratings.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/january-2013-female-p4p-update/


    Current Ratings

    Last ratings update: June 5th, 2013 @ 5:27 AM ET
    Last schedule update: June 5th, 2013 @ 5:27 AM ET

    Female Pound For Pound

    1)    Cecilia Braekhus

    2)    Ava Knight

    3)    Frida Wallberg

    4)    Anne Sophie Mathis

    5)    Jessica Chavez

    6)    Yesica Yolanda Bopp

    7)    Layla McCarter

    8)    Erica Anabella Farias

    9)    Jelena Mrdjenovich

    10)  Yesica Patricia Marcos

    On the Cusp: *Ana Maria Torres, Arely Mucino, Carina Moreno, *Jackie Nava, Kaliesha West, Marcela Eliana Acuna, Melissa McMorrow, Myriam Lamare, Susi Kentikian, Mariana Juarez, Melissa Hernandez, Esmeralda Moreno, Alicia Ashley

    The Future: Amanda Serrano, Christina Hammer, Hyun-Mi Choi, Janeth Perez, Susie Ramadan, Yazmin Rivas, Irma Garcia, Oxandia Castillo, Ronica Jeffrey, Zulina Munoz

    Note: Holly Holm isn’t rated because she “retired”.

  38. Ted 11:11am, 06/13/2013

    Giorgio, Mille Grazie al mio grande amico ma auspichiamo soprattutto un nuovo equilibrio.

    I kind of suspected you might not like it, but as long as you and Davida like me, I am satisfied. .

  39. Giorgio 08:10am, 06/13/2013

    Hi Ted, good article , as I would expect from you, but I have to say I do not like woman boxing .... however your article is good

    Keep it up

    Giorgio

  40. Ted 06:08am, 06/13/2013

    Audley, great post and I think your suggestion might be the right way to go. Thank you for answering the question at the end.

  41. Audley 05:58am, 06/13/2013

    Ted, glad to see the spotlight on women in boxing. There are a lot of great women boxers who could put on a show that would put many of their male conterparts to shame. Back in my karate/kickbox days, I sparred some women that could not only hold their own, but there is still an imprint of a foot on my chest that one left as a parting gift while beating me in a tournament. 
    I think having both women and men in one hall of fame is good, as golf’s World Hall of Fame does.  Great article.

  42. Ted 12:44pm, 06/12/2013

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8BCeyolj2M

    Shadow Boxers is a 1999 documentary film about women’s boxing by director Katya Bankowsky that focuses on the pioneering fighter Lucia Rijker and features an original soundtrack by Argentine singer and songwriter Zoel. Freddie Roach and Michael Bentt also star in the movie.

  43. Ted 07:52pm, 06/11/2013

    Mark, maybe so, maybe not. Here is link on her:

    http://www.womenboxing.com/biographies/barbara1.htm

  44. Mark Jones 07:34pm, 06/11/2013

    Barbara Buttrick is the most important pioneer in women’s boxing.

  45. Ted 05:57pm, 06/11/2013

    Thanks a lot Tex. Woman’s boxing is not for everyone. I just happen to love it and this article was a labor of love. I might do a follow-up.

    Also, I need to know where to hold next year’s induction ceremony. Maybe in Las Vegas. lol

  46. Tex Hassler 04:33pm, 06/11/2013

    Women have the right to fight if they want to even if I disagree with women’s boxing. This was an extremely thought provoking article by Mr. Sares and a good one at that.

  47. Ted 03:34pm, 06/11/2013

    Thanks Angel. It was my pleasure to write this.

  48. Angel 02:46pm, 06/11/2013

    A joy to read.  Thank you for uplifting women in boxing.

  49. Ted 07:05am, 06/10/2013

    Gary, Tracy Byrd is Chris Byrd’s sister and she started fast but then came apart when she went up against the elite fighters.

    She is a very nice person.

  50. Ted 05:47am, 06/10/2013

    Duly knotted Yuen

  51. Yilan Yuen 08:10pm, 06/09/2013

    Dear all,

    I really think you have left one fighter out…!

    Michele Aboro
    22 W 0 L 12 Ko

  52. Ted 06:01pm, 06/09/2013

    Tokyo, I’m back and forth with Sue on Facebook and she indicated that that is something she has considered for some time.

    She knows her stuff!

  53. Kurt 05:53pm, 06/09/2013

    Mark, I did see Shadow Boxers way back when, I had known about Rijker way before that movie came out.  Tokyo, what you say is true,  it simply happened that Lucia was so good none of the other top female boxers wanted to get in the ring with her.  Kind of a Catch 22.  Back in the late 1970’s women’s boxing was very popular in Minnesota.  Most all pro shows had at least one women’s bout on them.  I recall seeing the women boxers fight in 15 round title fights.

  54. Ted 05:46pm, 06/09/2013

    Yes,  the criterion for this conversation is that the fighter must be retired. Holm has retired from Boxing. Thus she gets in. And there is no waiting period in my Hall.

  55. Ted 05:41pm, 06/09/2013

    I thinks so too. I really do.

  56. Tokyo Rosenthal 05:35pm, 06/09/2013

    Good call Ted, a WBAN HOF run by Sue would be great.

  57. Ted 05:31pm, 06/09/2013

    Wow, I’ll let you guys go after it while I think this through some more, but I will say that I think I can come up with a Hall that is better than anything Brophy can do when it comes to Women’s Boxing. Now Sue Fox might be the one who really can set this up as I believe she runs WBAN.

    More later

  58. Tokyo Rosenthal 05:19pm, 06/09/2013

    Kurt- with all due respect, you can’t give Lucia credit in a “Boxing Hall” for kick boxing or MMA. I appreciate what she did in those genres but if the conversation is about the IBHOF, then it has to be what she accomplished in boxing only. Beating Hallback in Chevelle’s pro debut isn’t big in my opinion. There’s really no household names on her ledger. Granted there’s a shortage of household names in womens boxing but at least Ali beat Christy Martin.

    If the criteria for this conversation is that the fighter must be retired then Jelena Mrdjenovic is out until she retires, but will most definitely be in following retirement, as should Ann Marie Saccurato possibly, maybe Miriam LaMare as well. Jeannine Garside and Lisa Brown are possibles too.

    Then again this all fiction until Ed Brophy opens the doors to the Hall for women.

    I totally disagree with Jill Diamond’s quote. It’s Women’s Boxing, as is women’s Tennis, women’s Golf, and women’s Bowling. The rules are different, ie 2-minute rounds, shorter title fights. It’s not a bad thing to differentiate. As long as women don’t fight men then it should be differentiated. As a promoter I can tell you that this is a positive thing. Team sport has nothing to with it as the only major team sport with a “big time” league is basketball with the WNBA. Try selling tickets to folks to come watch basketball and not tell them it’s women only. I mean business is business and disclosure to the buying public is only fair. We are a race with two genders, and the genders are different. Embrace the difference, don’t try and ignore it.

  59. Mark Jones 04:48pm, 06/09/2013

    @ Kurt Agreed on Rijker - she’s the all-around greatest female boxer of all-time in my opinion. I assume you have watched the boxing documentary, “Shadow Boxers?”

    @ Ted - This was a great idea. Keep up the great work.

  60. Kurt 03:58pm, 06/09/2013

    Tokyo,  In my opinion Rijker was far suprerior to any of her contemporaries, she did things in the ring no other women boxer had done before. She was a natural. When she was active she was a very serious martial artist, kickboxer, boxer. That was her life, not her hobby.  She also had the guts to fight a top ranked male kickboxer in a real match. She never avoided anyone.

  61. Ted 02:35pm, 06/09/2013

    Points taken Mark

    For me quality of opposition and dominance are very important, as is the entire body of work but I’m in the minority on that last point and I know it.

  62. Mark Jones 02:22pm, 06/09/2013

    Normally, when evaluating a fighter, I take the best fight and the worst and throw them out considering them outliers. Anani may have lost it all at once in her losses to Terri Blair who was better than her record might indicate. Ali came down in weight to compete at super middle and was nearly four inches taller - I guess we will never know.

  63. Ted 02:09pm, 06/09/2013

    Anani’s last defeats to Teri Blair keep her off my list. AS for criteria, I don’t believe the IBHOF or any other has ever set forth criteria. I can set forth mine if you wish. Just let me know,

    I tend to view a lot of Halls cynically and with a view towards politics but that’s just me. My Hall is politically free.

  64. Ted 02:05pm, 06/09/2013

    Mark, with respect, I think Lucia’s background and Ali’s lack of one would have given Lucia an advantage. Moreover, size is often neutralized in women’s boxing. Not always, but often.

  65. Mark Jones 01:17pm, 06/09/2013

    I think Anani is the next great fighter not on the list that would be eligible under normal Hall of Fame criteria.

    As great as Rijker was, Ali was too big and too skilled for Rijker to handle her. Rijker was primarily a counter-puncher. Swarmers like Anani or Martin would have given her problems stylistically speaking.

  66. Ted 12:14pm, 06/09/2013

    Well yes, the Hillary fight was a dirty one. Agreed there.

  67. your name aka Ted 12:12pm, 06/09/2013

    Well Tokyo, I am basing it on her entire body of work—Her Muay Thai record was an astounding 37-0 with 25 KOs (she holds five world kick boxing titles). And she never lost a boxing match.

    Fettkether, Couch, Acuna, Almager, Hallback, were all fine fighters whom Lucia beat when they were relatively young. No one ever wanted to fight her including Ali.

    IMO, She is the best. But I can see a great argument on this. Who do you think is better?.

  68. Tokyo Rosenthal 12:04pm, 06/09/2013

    Exactly what fights of Rijker are you basing you adoration of her on? She might have been good or even great, but I’m not sure we ever got to find out as she never fought any really good fighters, IMO. Her opponents had a combined record of 91-55 and 20 of those wins belonged to Jane Couch. Not exactly stellar competition, I’m just saying…. And she had to attack Hillary from behind after the bell to win that fight, LOL!

  69. Ted 10:53am, 06/09/2013

    Kurt, I have to agree. Lucia would have beaten Ali. Lucia was the best female boxer of all time.

  70. Kurt 09:10am, 06/09/2013

    Lori,  Laila Ali could never have beaten Lucia Ryker no matter how much of a weight advantage she had.  Rijker was on a different level . She was a complete fighter. Fearless, hungry, skilled, experienced,  talented beyond belief.  I was at ringside for the Christie Martin - S. Anani fight and can tell you Martin won that fight.

  71. ted 04:20pm, 06/08/2013

    Winston, she is a possible for next year’s induction. She went 16-5-1 between 19911-1998. Her biggest win was over a very young Isra Girgrah. The Martin fight, though a loss, was her career definer.

  72. Winston Mount-Batten 04:11pm, 06/08/2013

    Great article on Women’s Boxing! Disappointed that there was very little mention of a young lady, who left her Irish homeland because female boxing was illegal. Came to the USA and won the undisputed Women’s World Featherweight Crown. Was the surprise lady who gave the Women’s Thrilla in Manila a historical chapter in the sport. A very modest lady who truly overcame adversity and boxed for all women, not just herself. She has written a book “MY CALL TO THE RING”, which ScreenWorks is negotiating with her on. DEIRDRE GOGARTY should surely be among the first entrants to any Women’s Hall of Fame!!!

  73. Ted 02:04pm, 06/08/2013

    Don’t hold your breath. At least Rijker is in the World Boxing Hall.

  74. Tokyo Rosenthal 11:29am, 06/08/2013

    As the former Executive producer and promoter of the only all women’s, televised boxing series, “A Ring Of Their Own”, I must say that a women’s wing in Canasota is long overdue. I spoke to Ed Brophy about it 7 years ago. Hard to believe it still hasn’t happened.
    Call when it does.

  75. Ted 10:51am, 06/08/2013

    Great post, Jerry. Thanks

  76. Jerry Hoffman 10:44am, 06/08/2013

    Yvonne Trevino and Regina Halmich in 1994 at the Aladdin in Vegas, was perhaps the best 3 rounds of boxing since Marvelous v. Hitman.  No clinches.  Both fighters dropped multiple times.  Action every second.  The entire 6 bout card involved World Title fights.  Barbara Buttrick of WIBF produced the show with hopes of getting the event on network TV.  It never happened.  Ed Berliner, myself, and Brigit Riley (the original baby doll) handled the blow by blow, ring announcing, post fight interviews and color commentary.  Trevino won by 3rd round stoppage.  Halmich was bleeding but not hurt despite sustained punishment and absolutely incredulous when the fight was stopped on cuts.

  77. Ted 10:41am, 06/08/2013

    Lori, I know “Plenty of excellent women boxers were left out of this article! And that’s a shame!” Yet, I had to cut it off at some point. Why not list more if you wish. I was simply trying to list the best of the current crop and then those I would putt in my Hall.

    Any you want to add?

  78. Ted 10:36am, 06/08/2013

    Thanks for posting Girlboxing. I could not agree more.

  79. Lori 10:36am, 06/08/2013

    I see there are again many quotes ABOUT Laila Ali but nothing FROM Laila Ali
    Although I imagine she is quite done with all of the stories about what people think she earned or think she said or who you think she ran from. It still annoys the hell out of me when I read things that I know are not fact based. How about someone just ask her for the truth? That would be a nice change. 

    And why is it people always want to know why she didn’t fight the greats like Lucia? How about the simple fact that Ali fought at 168-175.  How absurd that statement is!

    Plenty of excellent women boxers were left out of this article! And that’s a shame!
    I do have to agree however, the AMERICAN fighter Layla McCarter is the most inspirational, talented woman in this sport without question!

  80. girlboxing 10:29am, 06/08/2013

    Thanks for putting this article up. Women have been boxing since the early 1700s and continue to do so “rain or shine” so to speak.  That contemporary female boxers have achieved such excellence is remarkable if only because of how the women from the mid-1990s and early 2000s have been so marginalized. Despite this, the amateur and professional programs around the world are chock full of fantastic athletes who are making a mark on the sport through perseverance, determination and hard work.  Just watching the 36 athletes who competed for the first time as women boxers in the 2012 Olympics is testimony to those achievements.  Morons aside who deride the hard work of these athletes, the women of the ring deserve our admiration and respect for the efforts they put in that translate into phenomenal performances whenever they are able to get themselves on a bout card.  As Jill Diamond is quoted as saying “So, as far as I’m concerned, there’s only good boxing and bad boxing. Personally, I like good boxing.” What we see with these women is precisely that. Truly exceptional boxing.

  81. Ted 09:51am, 06/08/2013

    Correction from Layla McCarter: One thing though Ted… I’m American (not from Canada). I started my boxing career in Spokane, Washington. By way of Spokane would be ok. Perhaps you confused me with Jessica Rackosky, lol. Thank you again

    Yes, I did. Sorry about that. I’ll correct it with a post. I have a nice spot in my Hall of Fame ready for you when you retire.

  82. Ted 05:49am, 06/08/2013

    Clarence, the bottom line is that I strongly sense you simply don’t know very much about this topic nor does your clique of associates. My clique does and I have the email comments to prove it. I also have the personal and historical knowledge about this topic to consider myself somewhat of an authority on the topic.

    But that said, I never mind disagreement as long as it does not touch on my writing (which all writers should mind). I just am not all that keen of disagreement out of hand.

    But in the end I respect your right to show contempt. After all. many females fought for that right.

  83. Ted 05:42am, 06/08/2013

    A prop from Jill Diamond makes the entire effort worthwhile. Thanks, Jill.

  84. Ted 05:41am, 06/08/2013

    Great list Mark. Thanks for your post

  85. jill diamond 05:21am, 06/08/2013

    To me, there is no such thing as women’s boxing. There is only good boxing and bad boxing. The rest is about skilled athletes plying their talent in a legal and prescribed manner. The lack of popularity may have more to do with the unwillingness of the American Networks to treat them in the same way they would treat beach volleyball, or even, MMA. Anyone who can’t distinguish between assault and a viable contact sport has issues beyond gender bias. I deplore the fact that so many wonderful women did not have their chance because the opportunities simply weren’t there. Thank you Ted for this wonderful article and for opening the door to real comment and criticism.
    Jill Diamond,
    CoChair WBC Female Championship Committee
    Chair NABF Female Committee

  86. Clarence George 08:45pm, 06/07/2013

    Now, Ted, rejecting an argument doesn’t render it inherently valueless.  In any event, your contention that women should box because they also serve in combat is easy to answer—they shouldn’t do either.  We’re not barbarians!  Bottom line:  I completely reject Gloria Steinem’s “thinking” that there’s no reason for women to be treated differently from men.  What a dreary and unchivalrous world that’s made! 

    But I don’t want to go too far afield (though perhaps that was inevitable).  I’ve expressed my deservedly withering contempt for the grotesquery that’s “women’s boxing,” and I’m satisfied.

  87. Mark Jones 08:21pm, 06/07/2013

    The list is an excellent one. It falls into line with my all-time list. I would include, Sumya Anani who defeated Martin in or near Martin’s prime and had the style to give Rijker problems.
    1- Rijker
    2- Halmich
    3- Holm
    4- Anani
    5- Martin
    6- Salandy
    7- Ana Maria Torres
    8- Cecilia Braekhus
    9- Anne Sophie Mathis
    10- Laila Ali
    11- Natashia Ragosina
    12- Ann Wolfe

  88. Ted 06:07pm, 06/07/2013

    Two important links courtesy of Michael Schmidt:

    http://fighting-women.com/

    http://sportsnewsdaily.info/2013/05/27/toronto-to-host-symposium-on-womens-boxing-june-21-22-wban/

  89. Ted 05:29pm, 06/07/2013

    Thanks, Kid

  90. Ted 05:22pm, 06/07/2013

    When The Name of The Game is The Man in the Middle
    By Robert Brizel, Real Combat Media Correspondent
     
    Rare it is when a professional boxing world championship bout takes place, and everything goes smoothly because the referee sets a precise tempo for a super clean bout. Such was the case on May 24, 2013, at Westchester County Center in White Plains, New York, when the great Ron Lipton refereed the ten round women’s IWBF vacant super featherweight world bout between unbeaten Ronica Jeffrey of Brooklyn and Canadian challenger Olivia Gerula, a former WBC world champion.
    Referee Ron Lipton had no way of knowing Ronica Jeffrey would come out of the bout ranked by BoxRec as the number female super featherweight in the world.
    Lipton was refereeing his first world title bout in 15 years, since Lipton refereed Luis Ramon Campas versus Anthony Stephens for the International Boxing Federation Light middleweight title at Foxwoods Casino and Resort in Mashantucket, Connecticut, in March 1998, which Lipton stopped in favor of Campas in round three. Lipton was inactive as a referee for ten years from April 2002 to May 2012 before his recent return at the Mid-Hudson Civic Center in Poughkeepsie, New York, on May 12, 2012, to referee the six rounder between super featherweights Chazz McDowell and Yuniel Ramos, won by McDowell by majority decision.
    On a night when fouls costs fighters draws in two preceding bouts with different referees, Lipton appeared unfazed. The entire ten round bout refereed by Lipton did not have a single clinch or foul. Part of this had to do with the fighters, of course, who fought a clean bout. The other part of it had to do with Lipton’s demeanor, whose sense of concentration, presence and tempo set the stage for a tremendous example of ring generalship on the part of both fighters and the referee.
    In my professional view, this is the way fighters should be fought, and this is the way fights should be refereed. The boxing referee, by his or her presence, should influence fighters to fight properly and cleanly and respect the referee at all times.

    Ron Lipton got there, so hat’s off, and it’s quite a feat, no matter how it was accomplished. The ten round two minute rounds female world title fight was a great bout for Lipton to get his feet wet on the world championship stage in a lesser known venue. Soon, Lipton will be ready yet again as he once was for higher level male world championship fights at Barclay’s Center and Madison Square Garden.

  91. kid vegas 03:43pm, 06/07/2013

    Here is an interesting link. I follow Diamond. She knows this subject as well as anyone in boxing: www.worldboxingcares.com

  92. Ted Sares 01:09pm, 06/07/2013

    It was great to to see veteran ref Ron Lipton work the vacant International Women’s Boxing Federation super featherweight contest between Ronica Jeffrey and former WBC super featherweight champion Olivia Gerula recently. Lipton turned in his usual fine performance during the 10-round world title bout—the main event at the Westchester County Center in White Plains, New York. Ron is fast returning and it is a good thing to witness.

  93. Ted 12:35pm, 06/07/2013

    Robert Ecksel, very interesting stuff

  94. Ted 12:33pm, 06/07/2013

    Djata Bumpus, I agree that a lot of critics of women’s boxing don’t take the time to study how it has evolved—much like female basketball has evolved. At the University of Connecticut, which always has great men’s teams, women’s basketball now brings millions of dollars into the coffers.

    And as I said toward the end of my lengthy article, “The days of two fighters flailing away at each other in an amateurish manner have long since been replaced by technical stylists who have a firm grasp of the fundamentals and who know precisely what they are doing at all times while in the ring.”

    The critics need to watch the films and then make their judgments. Simply asserting that women should not fight because they are women is as sexist as can be and is totally unacceptable to me as a legitimate argument against women’s boxing.

    I can deal with someone who says they don’t like the catch weight frequency, or the short rounds, or the lack of power punching, etc., but to say they don’t want to see women bruised up doesn’t do it for me. In combat, women get more than bruised up; they get killed. And to deride and dismiss it because it is deemed crapola is totally out of order. Tell me why it is crapola. Back your arguments. Give some reasoning. Use logic and empirical data..  The 8,000 fans who watched Ragosina in her last fight did not deem it crapola. Nor do the throngs of fans who watch Cecillia Brakhus fight main events in Denmark and Germany and Finland. The millions who watched Gogarty and Martin steal the thunder from Tyson did not think it was crapola. The World Boxing Hall of Fame who inducted Lucia Rijker does not deem it crapola. I’ll wager most of these “experts” would not know who Layla McCarter is, much less Jelena Mrdjenovich.

    What is this “vast majority of ...boxing-fan friends and acquaintances, an eclectic mix” composed of? Who are they? Names? Qualifications? What are their arguments? I’ll debate any one of them provided they are rational.. However,  sexism does not equate to being rationale IMO.


    That is all.

  95. Robert Ecksel 11:01am, 06/07/2013

    From “Boxiana: Sketches of Pugilism,” a collection of Pierce Egan’s boxing journalism from the years 1812-1824:


    FEMALE PUGILISM
    To shew the nationality of BOXING, and that it was not confined to heroes, we have extracted the following copy of an advertisement, which appeared in a diurnal print, in June, 1722, upwards of ninety years since, when even HEROINES panted for the honours of pugilistic glory!


    CHALLENGE.
    I, ELIZABETH WILKINSON, of Clerkenwell, having had some words with HANNAH HYFIELD, and requiring satisfaction, do invite her to meet me upon the stage, and box me for three guineas ; each woman holding half-a-crown in each hand, and the first woman that drops the money to lose the battle.


    ANSWER.
    I, HANNAH HYFIELD, of Newgate Market, hearing of the resoluteness of ELIZABETH WILKINSON, will not fail, God willing, to give her more blows than words—desiring home blows, and from her, no favor : she may expect a good thumping !

  96. Djata Bumpus 10:54am, 06/07/2013

    Women’s boxing in the pro ranks started in the mid-50s….Only about 14 years ago, did it get amateur status….and it was finally brought into the Olympics only last year…Moreover, with the lack of quality of most of today’s trainers, as well as the softness of many of this generation’s males, no one who actually knows how to fight, much less teach it, cannot ignore the fact that “It’s how how hard you hit; rather, it’s where you hit.”...as well, ““The more defensive techniques a fighter has, the harder s/he can fight.”...The gender of the person who executes the fight is irrelevant!....Moreover, everyone who mouths off about women fighters can’t fight his or her way out of a paper bag.

  97. Thresher 09:47am, 06/07/2013

    Speaking of Graf, the Belarusian/Australian is 26-3 and is worthy of mention here. As is Mexican Ana Maria Torres (28-3-3) who is on a 15-fight undefeated streak which includes several impressive wins.

  98. Ted 09:42am, 06/07/2013

    Meinhard, Alicia Ashley is still fighting at 45, but her 19-9-1 record does not really entitle her to an induction into my Hall. Her 2-1 mark against Acuna and her draw with McCarter and her SD over Graf in 2005 are very impressive but they are offset by losses to ordinary opposition like Ryu and Yan.

    But yes, she comes close and she HAS won 5 in a row.

  99. Ted 09:33am, 06/07/2013

    Yes, that was the rap on her, Kurt, her level of opposition, but if you watch her fight, you can see she was very big and mobile and just too much for most of her opponents. And she did wax Martin, bit I do agree that she was over-hyped to some degree, though I also manifestly believe she should be on my Hall of Fame.

  100. Kurt 09:30am, 06/07/2013

    Laila Ali does not belong in any Women’s Boxing Hall of Fame. Her entire career was scripted . She never intended on fighting any of the other top women fighters her weight. She actually set the sport of women’s boxing back. Her biggest win was over Jackie Frazier, who I believe only 2 fights amateur and pro before taking on Laila.

  101. Ted 08:51am, 06/07/2013

    As Melvin Belli once said, I rest my case.

  102. Clarence George 08:41am, 06/07/2013

    Ha!  Well, what was she doing there?  Interfering, I’ll warrant, when her role is to heat the blood.

  103. Ted 08:31am, 06/07/2013

    Krusher, that KO by Wolfe Is one of the scariest in boxing history, though Holly Holm also suffered a bad one at the hands of Mathis. Wolfe could punch and she was a lot smaller than the giant Ward.

    And Wolfe herself was waxed by Mahfood, so these boxers can punch big time.

  104. The Krusher 08:27am, 06/07/2013

    The KO of the tall basketball player was a KRUSHER! It scared the crap outta me.

  105. Ted 08:24am, 06/07/2013

    Clarence, I suspect Tex is coming from a different place as he is an ordained minister, albeit a fine ex-boxer. But I’ll let him speak for himself.

    As for your comments, let me answer in a some what indirect way—
    As a movie buff, you undoubtedly saw the great noir flick, “The Big Knife.” There was a scene in which Rod Steiger as Hoff, an unscrupulous movie producer,  was trying to get Jack Palance to sign a new contract in front of his wife Marion. When Marion protests, Rod screams out, “Must the woman be here.”

    Clarence, I’ll let your documented lascivious propensities and sexist persona take it from there. lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p80b_F85DR0

  106. The Krusher 08:23am, 06/07/2013

    Thanks, Bull

  107. Ted 08:08am, 06/07/2013

    I agree Djata. Ragosina may have been a tad overrated but her dominance and long run as a title holder gets her into my Hall of Fame.

  108. Clarence George 08:03am, 06/07/2013

    Ah, Tex, you and I cozily ensconced in the doghouse of political incorrectness, comforted by the mantle of certainty about our broad shoulders.

    On the one hand, “women’s boxing” (tee-hee), as a symptom of a gross era in the history of man, will probably stick around for awhile (as is the wont of bad smells); on the other, it’s not to be taken seriously, and I don’t at all see it growing in popularity.  The vast majority of my boxing-fan friends and acquaintances, an eclectic mix, deride and dismiss it for the crapola it is. 

  109. djata 08:00am, 06/07/2013

    Thanks for sharing this, Ted….Natascha Ragosina is getting a lot of press, these days, but her opponent here doesn’t even know how to hold her hands…Natascha has good lateral movement, but she doesn’t jab with any kind of authority….the shorter woman doesn’t know how to cut the ring off, so her attacks are both sporadic and ineffective…In another generation, female boxers will be far more improved…Please send me any articles you do, on women’s boxing…Okay?..Cheers!...Djata

  110. Ted 07:37am, 06/07/2013

    Gee Tex, how do you really feel? LOL

  111. Tex Hassler 07:23am, 06/07/2013

    My vote would be for an end to women’s boxing. I do not think they should box at all. I make a point not to watch it.

  112. Ted 07:04am, 06/07/2013

    Prego, Bill, prego

  113. ted the bull 07:03am, 06/07/2013

    Here is a very fine weekly wrap-up from Jim McGrady on the Boxing Tribune:

    http://theboxingtribune.com/2013/06/womens-boxing-the-weekly-wrap-up-24/

    He features Yessica Bopp’s first defeat.

  114. dollarbond 07:02am, 06/07/2013

    That more than answers my question.  Thanks, Ted.

  115. Ted 06:57am, 06/07/2013

    Thank you very much Bill. I appreciate the prop. Yes, she was but I did not want to sensationalize this article with that part of her life. But I reckon it’s ok to put in a post. Jim Martin, her trainer/manager/husband stabbed her after a violent domestic argument and was arrested whereupon he then stabbed himself in a fit of suicidal rage. He was convicted and sentenced to—I believe it was 25 years. Being in his 60’s that means he is pretty much done.

    As for Christy, she re-connected with someone she knew in HS and they are now living happily together as life partners. Christy always wanted to get her 50th win but a broken hand against tough Dakota Stone denied that. She also lost to Mia St. John and that signaled the end. But she had a great run and is the true pioneer of modern women’s boxing.

    I value my photo with her on my Facebook page that was taken in her prime. She was and is a very nice person; very humble and very accessible.

  116. dollarbond 06:49am, 06/07/2013

    Bull, you outdid yourself.  A very nice piece of modern history and an enjoyable read.  Wasn’t Christy Martin almost murdered by her husband?

  117. Ted 06:28am, 06/07/2013

    Actually, the “What do you think?” was meant to ask whether you think there should be a Women’s Hall of Fame or, based on Jill Diamond’s observation, there should not be one. Had nothing to do with what you think about females boxing, but that question is implied by the article so that can be addressed as well.

    It kind of falls into the category of “you either love it or hate it.” Me, I love it for its purity relative to the fundamentals of the sweet science, but also for it competitiveness. It might be a work in progress to some, but no more tan anything else in my view.

    Another point might be that if we allow females in combat (as Israel also does), than clearly boxing should allow females.

  118. Ted 05:47am, 06/07/2013

    B-Red :twisted:

  119. Ted 05:44am, 06/07/2013

    Thanks Paul. Your Jim McGrady is doing a nice job on this subject.

  120. Ted 05:43am, 06/07/2013

    Hal, solid reasoning. It was not that long ago when women were banned from running in the Boston Marathon.

    The thing I have always noted that in sports, women tend to grasp and follow the fundamentals much more readily, especially in basketball and baseball. This has also been true in boxing for the past 15 years. Jessica Rakoczy works the ring like someone casting for a training video.  That’s one of the many reasons I like women’s boxing. I also think the 2-minute rounds make a lot of sense at this point.

    Women are really beginning to make their mark in the US amateurs.

  121. Ted 05:37am, 06/07/2013

    Sure do Irish, check this out

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfmk9sR27zM

    She is super talented

  122. NYIrish 05:31am, 06/07/2013

    Good piece Ted. Has anyone heard anything about Clarissa Shields, Olympic champion?

  123. ted 05:10am, 06/07/2013

    Krusher, I wish I knew the answer to that. It gets a BIG play in Europe and South America but not so much anymore in the US. instead we get garbage on Friday Night.

  124. Ted 05:07am, 06/07/2013

    Thanks Meinhard and Kid Vegas. I worked my butt off on this one reviewing God knows how many videos and tapping my own memory bank. This was a labor of love, however, because I am a great fan of Women’s Boxing and wanted it to be documented in a more historical manner.

    And as I point out, watching Rakoczy do her thing is something to behold.

  125. Ted 05:03am, 06/07/2013

    Digital, many thanks for bringing Isra to my attention. And thanks for the prop.

  126. Meinhard Schmidt 03:48am, 06/07/2013

    Alicia Ashley would also belong to the hall. very slick and smooth boxer!

  127. Meinhard Schmidt 03:39am, 06/07/2013

    Women should be in the hall, of course! Thanks Ted for this great piece. I tended to be very sceptical about women´s boxing, but in 2005 or 06 i came late for watching a local amateur show, and i watched two young boxers going at each other…. i was very impressed with their skill and intensity… as i got closer to the ring i noticed it were girls!! one of them was Jessica Balogoun who is a world champion now and gave Braekhus a tough fight last year!

  128. Gary Digital Williams 02:02am, 06/07/2013

    Great work, Ted.  I would add one name to your list:

    “The Raging Beauty” Isra Girgrah (28-3-2, 11 KO’s)  Girgrah fought and beat some solid performers—Tracy Byrd, Melissa Del Valle, Fought Christy Martin in Madison Square Garden lost an eight-round decision that many thought she should have won.  Captured five world titles and is the only female boxer inducted into the Washington DC Boxing Hall of Fame.

  129. The Krusher 12:02am, 06/07/2013

    Very enjoyable and informative read here but how come there aren’t more female fights on TV? I’d gladly watch them over some of the crap I see on Friday nights.

  130. Clarence George 10:19pm, 06/06/2013

    B Red:  I, for one, “dig.”  Women hitting and hurting each other is sport only from the perspective of Caligula wannabes.  But women wrestling—particularly in oil, in my opinion—is a sociological phenomenon worthy of up-close research and study.

  131. kid vegas 10:17pm, 06/06/2013

    This is truly a fantastic piece. I thought I knew something about female fighters but after reading this, I am going back to the drawing board and to the videos. By the way, Ragosina and Holm are beautiful women.

  132. B Red 09:32pm, 06/06/2013

    I dont like women boxing, because when i watch fights i envision my self what i would do in the ring against my opponent. I dont like to see women bruised up and bloodied. I like women mud wrestling though, ya dig

  133. Hal Bernstein 09:08pm, 06/06/2013

    Clarence, Neither women nor society need “protecting” by wannabe dictators who take it upon themselves to decide what is obscene and degrading…A woman has a right to pursue any career she sees fit…The idea that anyone should be limited by some third party’s prejudice is disgusting. THAT line of thinking is a sign of a “depraved and debased culture.” Pre-medieval religion needs to disappear, just like pre-medieval medicine and transportation did.

  134. Clarence George 08:53pm, 06/06/2013

    I’m taking the “What do you think?” as an invitation to give my opinion of “women’s boxing.”  It’s an obscenity, which degrades both women and the Sweet Science.  Women seeking to be men is no less egregious and revolting than men seeking to be women. 

    Women hitting each other as a form of entertainment is a manifest sign of a depraved and debased culture.  It’s what’s done in the shower room of Tehachapi in order to avoid lesbian rape…if I want to see that sort of thing, I’ll watch Hope Emerson abuse Eleanor Parker in “Caged!”

  135. Paul Magno 07:41pm, 06/06/2013

    Great Work, Ted…IMO, Ann Wolfe is still even money against most male boxers her weight…

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