All Time Welterweight Poll: Robbie Still the One and Only

By Mike Casey on January 13, 2013 All Time Welterweight Poll: Robbie Still the One and Only
Ray sailed to victory in our Welterweight poll with all the serenity of his classic boxing style.

His record stood at a near fictitious 120-1-2 by the time he had finished with the welterweight division and went on his middleweight raid…

Some fighters are so exceptionally great that the passing of time never diminishes their stature. The brilliant Sugar Ray Robinson is one such fighter and indeed the man for all seasons in the eyes of many. Untouched by fashion, fads and revisionist thinking, the Harlem Flash remains forever cool.

One look at the mighty Robinson ledger and we can see why. His record stood at a near fictitious 120-1-2 by the time he had finished with the welterweight division and went on his middleweight raid. We would require far too many precious megabytes of space to do justice to his many other accomplishments.

Ray sailed to victory in our Welterweight poll with all the serenity of his classic boxing style. He didn’t place worse than second among the many entries and was voted the premier welterweight by all but two voters.

Robbie’s friend and fellow genius, Henry Armstrong, placed an honorable second in the final standings. The fact that Homicide Hank never really stopped being a featherweight places his amazing career achievements in perspective

Sugar Ray Leonard kept piling up the points to secure third place, while Kid Gavilan edged out his Cuban “brother” Jose Napoles for fourth. Thomas Hearns (6th) was a big favorite of our readers, but there was an equal appreciation for the quartet of five-star legends in Jack Britton, Barbados Joe Walcott, Mickey Walker and Barney Ross.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. missed the Big Ten by just a point, while there were also strong showings from Emile Griffith, Manny Pacquiao and Roberto Duran.

Once again our thanks go to our readers and staff writers for their contributions. We are proud that, in its short history, has already established itself as the home of the true boxing fan.

Details of our Junior Welterweight poll will follow shortly, but in the meantime here’s how the Welterweights finished. If you didn’t vote, don’t moan about your man’s absence!

01. Sugar Ray Robinson (USA) 158
02. Henry Armstrong (USA) 126
03. Sugar Ray Leonard (USA) 99
04. Kid Gavilan (Cuba) 72
05. Jose Napoles (Cuba/Mexico) 65
06. Thomas Hearns (USA) 47
07. Jack Britton (USA) 43
08. Joe Walcott (Barbados) 42
09. Mickey Walker (USA) 39
10. Barney Ross (USA) 37

11. Floyd Mayweather Jr. (USA) 36
12. Emile Griffith (USA) 30
13. Manny Pacquiao (Philippines) 20
14. Roberto Duran (Panama) 15
15. Ted (Kid) Lewis (England) 9
16. Charley Burley (USA) 9
17. Tommy Ryan (USA) 8
18. Pernell Whitaker (USA) 8
19. Kid McCoy (USA) 8
20. Carmen Basilio (USA) 4

Mike Casey is the Founder & Editor of ALL TIME BOXING at He is a freelance journalist and boxing historian and a member of the International Boxing Research Organization (IBRO).

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  1. SAM MCPHERSON 11:05am, 01/28/2013

    His career was cut short by personal problems, but Clint Jackson as an amateur boxer was one of the best I have ever seen. At the USA Boxing camp in Colorado prior to the Montreal Olympics, Sugar Ray Leonard was causing a problem with his attitude until Clint called him into the ring and taught him some manners.  He won national titles as an amateur and could have been one of the greatest professional welterweights, but he couldn’t get fights with the top contenders and let personal problems ruin his career.

  2. Beaujack 09:38pm, 01/20/2013

    As a youngster I saw the great welterweight Ray Robinson “toy’ with a fading Henry Armstrong at MSG, saw Robby destroy a tough Californian fighter Jimmy McDaniels also at MSG, and cannot envision any welterweight of modern times beating Robinson…His lethal flurries were a thing to behold, and Robinson was the best fighter I ever saw ringside…

  3. tuxtucis 04:01am, 01/17/2013

    At moment they fought Hearns had about the same number of matches than Leonard….Before the meeting with Sugar Ray, Hearns had won Hayman, Muangsurin, Espada, hall of famer Cuevas, Shields…so or both were inexperenced or neither was..

  4. raxman 05:00pm, 01/16/2013

    don from prov - hearns was inexperienced vs Leonard #1 in as much as he was 32-0 with 30ko’s - he’d only gone as far as 10 rounds 3 times. he had no idea how to fight to a pace (as ray did) nor to did he know what to do when hurt - he’d never needed to clinch.

  5. Don from Prov 01:38pm, 01/15/2013

    Rax: I wouldn’t call Tommy inexperienced when he fought Leonard

    And no, I wouldn’t call his chin china either—he didn’t fall down every time he was hit—but he certainly had stamina and chin issues, IMO: I’m a big Hearns fan—one of my favorites, but I wouldn’t put that chin in the way of a SRR hook

    —Jake LaMotta he was not

  6. THE THRESHER 05:07pm, 01/14/2013


  7. raxman 03:25pm, 01/14/2013

    don from prov - i reckon the tommy hearns shaky chin is a bit of a myth. he was stopped 3 times - two of them hagler and barkley were absolute bangers - and ray leonard who wore him down over 14 rounds when he was inexperienced. hearns took plenty of big shots and took them well. i’m not saying he had concrete for a chin but it wasn’t china either.

    ted - who would floyd have had to fight? he was criticized for not fighting mosley and cotto but since fougth both. pac can’t be counted and that leaves margarito. jesus he would’ve schooled him like he did chico and then everyone would’ve said that margarito was a bum. floyd is victim of his time. he came up when except for a few throwbacks all fighters cherry pick to some extent. it started with the big purses in the 80’s. as much as leonard and hearns deserve their positions both have the name aaron pryor missing from their resume. floyd and his contempories fight twice a year so we as fans are happy to fork out money just to see them in action. and for the fighters what used to be about champion vs #1 challenger is now just about risk vs reward. floyd has cherry picked along the way but he wasn’t the first and he won’t be the last

  8. Don from Prov 11:20am, 01/14/2013

    For Jr. to climb higher in the rankings he only has to become—someone else

    I’d never put him 11th to begin with, but I already had my vote
    Kid Yankee, a great cab driver, would have whupped them all

    Hearns is a tough one, huh?  Shaky chin shaky stamina
    But any WW he hits clean, he KO’s—sooner or later

  9. the thresher 09:30am, 01/14/2013

    Hmm. Who does Mayweather Jr. have to beat to climb in these rankings? Trout and Canelo? Forget Pac. JMM again? Martinez? GGG? At catch weights. Who? He may now be the victim of his own cherry picking.

  10. the thresher 06:31am, 01/14/2013

    I want that line, Matt

  11. Matt McGrain 06:27am, 01/14/2013

    Hahahahaha what a superb line Frankie…consider it nicked.

  12. Irish Frankie Crawford Beat Saijo (aka) Gimpel 05:06am, 01/14/2013

    The list is both mythical and legendary but not necessarily in that order.

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