Floyd’s Advice for Triple G

By Robert Ecksel on September 19, 2016
Floyd’s Advice for Triple G
Floyd Mayweather, like the rest of us, was impressed with Special K’s Sisyphean effort.

Dominic Ingle stopped the fight, not at the behest of HBO, but on behalf of the fighter he was hired, at least in part, to protect…

“If you get belted and see three fighters through a haze, go after the one in the middle. That’s what ruined me—going after the other two guys.”—Max Baer

Former pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather offers advice without prompting. His opinions vary, according to subject and audience, and accordingly sometimes need to be taken with a grain of salt. But when it comes to boxing he knows what of he speaks.

Having watched welterweight Kell Brook’s noble but doomed effort against middleweight Gennady Golovkin at London’s O2 Arena, Mayweather, like the rest of us, was impressed with Brook’s Sisyphean effort.

But, he told Fighthype.com, “If I was in Kell Brook’s corner, I wouldn’t have stopped the fight. It was a very, very close fight, some had ‘GGG’ ahead, some had Kell Brook ahead. I probably had Kell Brook ahead a little bit.”

I also had Brook ahead, but when his trainer Dominic Ingle threw in the towel in the fifth round, the tide had turned and Brook was getting pummeled on the ropes.

Brook later said he was seeing triple and had his eye socket fractured early in the fight. In light of that injury, in light of that knowledge, the stoppage now seems less premature than merciful.

But if Mayweather was working Brook’s corner that night the fight would have continued.

“In the sport of boxing, it’s about taking risks,” said Mayweather. “I respect Kell Brook for taking a risk, going up two weight classes, now we’re waiting for Triple G to go up and take risks like every other champion.”

Assuming Mayweather doesn’t do irony, it sounds as if the man who declared himself “The Best Ever,” despite evidence to the contrary, expects Golovkin to do what Mayweather himself failed to do, such as “taking risks…like every other champion.”

Mayweather believes Golovkin gets a pass from HBO. But the man in Brook’s corner stopped the fight, not at the behest of HBO, aka The Evil Empire, but on behalf of the fighter he was hired, at least in part, to protect, both from Golovkin and himself.

“I told him (Dominic Ingle) in round two that my eye was broken and that I couldn’t see so he was aware of what was going on,” Brook told Sky Sports. “He’s obviously seen me taking shots, couldn’t see, and he kept seeing me trying to refocus my eye. That’s when he got in and waved it off.

“Looking back now, at the time I did want to fight because I am a fighter, but in the long run the doctors have said if I had carried on getting bigger shots on the eye, I could have ended up being blind.

“We live to fight another day. It was definitely the right choice because I could hardly see in the fight. I’ve got an operation this Friday. I went down to see the surgeons and they wanted to plan it right and look into everything.

“They’re looking to put a titanium plate in the eye but they’re looking at other materials. They’re not rushing it but it looks like this Friday. I’m more scared of getting put to sleep than I was getting in with Golovkin.”

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  1. non_prophet 07:20am, 10/04/2016

    Everytime Robet Ecksel writes one of his typically marvelous articles, Irish Frankie always shows up to utterly ruin it with his racist ignorance.  Your petty nationalism is repugnant, Irish Frankie.  Take it to Stormfront.

  2. The Thresher 07:42am, 09/29/2016

    What is “amusing” about Floyd. He is corny and a tad stupid, but a superb boxer. Period ker plunk. Amusing, you find him amusing? Like a clown?

  3. nicolas 05:06pm, 09/24/2016

    May weather would have allowed the fight too continue. A man has a broken eye socket. After such an injury, how long will Brook have to be out? Brook did give Glolovkin perhaps his most difficult challenge, and this considering it only lasted to the fifth round. But I think with the injury that Brook had, if the fight went on, it might have been a career ending injury.

  4. Eric 10:27am, 09/23/2016

    Whether you like Floyd or not, I dislike him immensely, to deny that he wasn’t a great fighter is absurd. Would I rank Floyd higher than Duran, Leonard, Henry Armstrong, or Ray Robinson? Hell no, but I would rank him just a notch or two below these ATG fighters. Truth is that Floyd had the style to give Duran fits, but I still favor a Duran victory. Leonard vs. Floyd is not a good matchup for Floyd at all, anything Floyd can do, Leonard can do better, and Leonard is quite a bit larger as well.

  5. raxman 07:48pm, 09/22/2016

    Steve - I don’t know what you were doing in May last year but the Floyd vs Pac question was answered.
    and Hagler and Benn were both Middleweigths - Benn ending up a supermiddle whilst Floyd went up to Welterweight for the last third of his career whilst the other 30 odd fights took place under 140
    but even without those factual errors your post undermines my theory without putting fwd any argument as to why - other than your completely subjective opinion (and adolescent onomatopoeia)
    my point is that comparing fighters from different eras is impossible as the sport was so different
    The Mayweather that fought in our time would have been a completely different beast if fighting in another. He would have been different because the sport would have demanded it - same day weigh ins, fighting at times twice a month (as opposed to twice a year), 8 weight classes and only one champion for each, and 15 round fights - its so different its impossible to say how any of the modern day fighters would have handled it.
    it doesn’t matter how Floyd would’ve done against past fighters is what I’m saying. all that matters is how he did in his era, and in his era he’s record is amazing -  24-0 against former or current title holders - that’s nearly half his career fighting guys that were good enough to hold a world title strap - to put that into contrast with GGG - he’s now 4-0 from 36 fights (that’s nearly 10% of his opposition as opposed to nearly 50% - so, who needs to take risks?)

  6. steve 02:37pm, 09/22/2016

    raxman-slurp slurp slurp. Duran, Hagler, Hearns Nigel Benn, Aaron Pryor Pac Man to name a small group would have killed him.

  7. Steve 02:28pm, 09/22/2016

    Great article

  8. raxman 11:51pm, 09/21/2016

    Eric - I think the mistake is trying to rate fighters who fought in completely different eras. Ray Robinson fought in an era where guys fought at their walk around weight because not only did they have same day weigh in but they fought every 3 weeks - not to mention 1 world champ in 8 weight divisions and 15 round fights
    Duran, Leonard etc fought the 15 rounds but there were alphabet titles and these guys were the start of the risk vs reward era as closed circuit and then PPV came in and started paying big big money
    Floyd and Pac are in an entirely different era. Every fighter aspires to fight twice a year for the biggest pay days
    those 3 eras of boxing are so different its impossible to compare the fighters who fought in them. judging Floyds modern era boxing against that of the other two is unfair. if Floyd had lived in Robinsons era he would have had to fight a very different way, although less different in the era of Duran etc it would also of brought out a different Floyd. Just as Duran etc would have had to fight differently in Robinson era (no ballooning between fights for Duran unless he wanted to be fighting Billy Conn and the other 175pounders)
    As much as anything, the times make the fighter - their style and their personality; all we can do is compare fighters within an era that as many variables as possible are the same
    for Floyd and Pac that era probably starts with Tyson’s big pay days and boxing being all about HBO and Showtime, that era went through to Oscar and right now is being championed by Canelo.
    In a nut shell - its fight twice a year. fight for the most money. if there is a choice between 2 opponents and they both will yield the same return, fight the one with the least chance of beating you - this isnt ducking, its smart -  for the tougher opponent will always be there for the next fight.
    and in fact the longer you leave off fighting the tougher guy all the better to build a buzz.
    is the current era good? hell no. its killing boxing slowly. but its the only era that Floyd and Pacquiao have.

  9. Don from Prov 10:09am, 09/21/2016

    Floyd is a very amusing guy

  10. Eric 06:36am, 09/21/2016

    Irish, I think environment plays a big part as well. These Eastern Europeans aren’t encouraged to live the metrosexual lifestyle of their Western counterparts. A lot of these Eastern European ironman are just too tough for these ‘Murican and European thugs. Take a look at the infamous, Black Dolphin prison and compare it to the prison systems in America and Europe. One thing for certain, the inmates don’t run Black Dolphin for sure. The Western male has been feminized by Madison Avenue, Hollyweird, academia, and decades of male bashing.

  11. Darrell 03:17am, 09/21/2016

    I had GGG ahead, in every round, round 2 was close-ish. Brook was slick enough for much of the fight but, ahhh, the reality was he got fucken pounded throughout. Any longer and it was more and more broken bones!

  12. Koolz 04:35pm, 09/20/2016

    Imagine Floyd taking on Hagler at 160lbs.

    That would be a fast fight.  Hagler would destroy Floyd.  You can only move and dance so long before you are caught.

  13. Eric 02:51pm, 09/20/2016

    Someone needs to remind Floyd that guys like Greb, Walker, Armstrong, Fitz, Robinson, and Duran never had their heavier opponents fight at a “catchweight.”  Imagine Floyd taking on Hagler at 160lbs.

  14. Koolz 01:41pm, 09/20/2016

    If only Floyd risked it?  and fought GGG!  I mean look what he did to Canelo right?  In fight with GGG Floyd would be beaten around the ring, but we don’t need to stop the fight because in boxing you take Risks!

    In the fourth round Brook was thinking of not even coming out to the fifth, his corning was asking him that.  Golovkin told Sanchez I don’t feel his punches this just a street fight.  Sanchez told Golovkin take your time we have 12 rounds.  Sanchez also told Golovkin you are probably losing on all rounds.  When the fifth round started GGG came out like a steam roller and started to flatten Brook.  That fight would never have made it to the sixth round.

    Let’s keep fighting and take risks so we can all go blind!

  15. Joe Giordano 12:40pm, 09/20/2016

    Very much appreciated the factual breakdown arguement for Floyd’s lb4lb status. However the final paragraph makes no sense . Could it be a errant cut and paste?

  16. Eric 07:04am, 09/20/2016

    raxman…Not a Floyd fan but he definitely should be considered for a top 10 all-time P4P slot in my opinion. However, I would not rate him above people like Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, Harry Greb, Mickey Walker, Bob Fitzsimmons, Roberto Duran, Ray Leonard, or Roy Jones Jr., in P4P rankings. That 49-0 “record” is the most overrated record in boxing in my opinion. It would be hard for me to imagine Floyd beating a Robinson or Leonard at 147lbs, Duran at 135lbs, or even a FOCUSED, in shape Duran at 147-154lbs.

  17. Eric 05:58am, 09/20/2016

    Floyd was a great fighter but I can’t imagine Floyd fighting with a fractured eye socket. If I remember right, wasn’t that the reason the Canadian ironman, George Chuvalo, could not continue against Joe Frazier? There does seem to be a lot of hate coming from the “brothers” regarding Golovkin, of course that is just par for the course when it comes to guys like Hopkins & “Pretty Boy.” Anyhow, a boxing match isn’t worth risking losing your vision in one eye. Stopping the bout was the right thing to do.

  18. raxman 05:56am, 09/20/2016

    Robert, I can’t believe someone with your knowledge of the sport would make as foolish a comment as the one you make re Floyd and risks. 
    You’re obviously falling into the trap that so many have by including Floyd’s often horrid personality in your judgement.
    Lets judge Mayweather Jnr only on his career in the ring. His first 31 fights were at super feather and lightweight. On its own that’s a good career spanning 2 weight classes. a handful of fights at 140 gave him a title in his 3rd weight class - that’s becoming a very good career.
    now for a guys his size moving into a 4th weight class is the first risk he took. most good fighters can’t conquer 4 weight classes. Its why for a time before wbo was rated it was rarely accomplished - arguello and fenech are two who spring to mind as great fighters who came up short

    when looking at floyds career at 147 and above we must appreciate where he started. when we look at the likes of Ray Leonard and Tommy Hearns we think of them first and foremost at there natural weight. in their case 147. in Duran’s lightweight.
    Its totally acceptable that a fighter could grow from a super featherweight, through light weight and into jnr welter and fit into the third weight class comfortably but, and particularly in floyds case when fighting in a fourth and fifth class youre always going to be disadvantaged (as proven recently by khan and brooks, you can put on the weight but its not as easy to gain the strength)
    obviously there is more to risks in the sport of boxing than moving weight classes but its the risk of moving up in weight that Floyd is pushing GGG on. There isn’t the big fights at 160 for Golovkin that exist 2 weight classes north. At light heavy there are 3 fighters who all rate as pound 4 pound Ward, Kovalev and Stevenson. Their size alone presents a risk for GGG, but I for one think he’d beat all three of them - at least he’d certainly have a chance. Ward would be the biggest challenge as the other two he could probably out box, Ward however doesn’t have the power of the other two so that alone gives GGG an even money chance

    Every fight Mayweather had at 147 and above constituted a risk on some level. and fighting Oscar at 154 capped off a first half career that gave him a fifth title and had he called it quits right then and there, would have to have been considered in the top 10 fighters of his era. coming back and fighting the quality of opponents he did in his last 11 fights must put him at the top with Pacquiao as to the greatest of his era - and that’s how you have to compare fighters, to evaluate greatness, by dividing them into the era in which they fought; this is how I’d split eras -

    Pre tv and early tv - so you’ve got the pioneers up to the time of Ray Robinson etc, then
    TV and early PPV (aka closed circuit) here you have Ali and into the four kings era, then
    The modern era of 2 fights per year and PPV extravaganzas - who in that era is greater than Mayweather Jnr - leaving out all the titles he won, and big gates, there is one statistic that must be always considered and cannot be argued for truth and substance:
    against former or current world title holders he is 24-0 - that’s nearly half his fights. this means he fought 24 guys who ranged from good to very very good and some even great - now that’s taking risks (FYI - in the same stat category Pacquiao is 21-5-2, so those guys are at the top with only Floyds win separating them at #1 & #2)

  19. Irish Frankie Crawford Beat Saijo aka Gimpel 03:17am, 09/20/2016

    If GGG were black Floyd would be just be fine with the whole thing and yes it’s just that simple. This is not a running and jumping sport and yes it’s just that simple too. While quick twitch muscle fibers and testosterone levels are extremely important here, think Errol Spence,  the intangibles like a tolerance for pain and a disregard for one’s personal safety play a very big role in who excels in this sport. Who knows, maybe GGGs physical makeup and gene history as a decendant of Turks and Mongols just make him more suitable for success in this sport than even Mayweather. It certainly enables GGG to hit twice as hard as Floyd which is another factor not entirely determined by muscle fibers and high T. All of this must be so confusing for Floyd.

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