Game Show: Let’s Blame Bob

By Robert Ecksel on December 18, 2012
Game Show: Let’s Blame Bob
Calling Bob Arum a "moron" and "idiot" doesn't exactly further Dana White's cause.


Dana White, boss of bosses of the UFC, always had a soft spot for Manny Pacquiao. He has called Manny “one of the best fighters in the world,” in addition to other superlatives, and for good reason. Manny was one of the best fighters in the world. But after his devastating KO loss to Juan Manuel Marquez two weeks ago, no one is saying that any longer, including the former praisemeister Dana White.

Most people, even Pinoys, now admit, albeit with a heavy heart, that Manny got bested, that the best man won, and that Marquez, whatever criticisms, justified or otherwise, have been leveled against him, is a great fighter.

Yet while others are busy praising Marquez for the win, Dana White is busy blaming Bob Arum for the loss.

Pacquiao’s promoter, for reasons too numerous to count, seems to be the consensus favorite dart board. He gets blamed for everything from the sinking of the Maine to the death of Princess Diana. Some of the enmity makes sense. But some of it is off the wall, nothing more than lemming-like behavior. No one ever accused Dana White of being a lemming. He’s his own man. He’s a trailblazer. He’s a leader, not a follower. He is, when all is said and done, the one and only Dana White.

White claims, without any credible evidence to substantiate the claim, that Arum knew Pacquiao would lose his last fight, but went ahead and made it anyway. How White knows what Arum knew is the stuff of crystal balls, tea leaves and Ouija boards.

“Dumbest fight in history,” barked White. “Bob Arum is a moron. You don’t take that fight, you idiot. Why would you do that fight? It’s all about the money, that’s why. That was a money fight, that’s what that fight was done for. He should have fought Bradley.”

Many felt that Pacquiao should have fought Bradley. That was the bout that cried out for resolution. However exciting Pacquiao-Marquez 4 was, and it was exciting, the end result derailed Manny’s career in a serious way and cast a long shadow over his many accomplishments.

“Bradley’s the fight they should have done,” continued White. “He would have knocked Bradley out, he would have got his belt back, and now he’s back in the position he should have been in. [Pacquiao’s] one of the best fighters in the world. He goes out and fights Marquez again? Bob Arum is the dumbest promoter in the history of the world.”

Calling Arum a “moron” and “idiot” doesn’t exactly further White’s cause. Everything Dana White says needs to be taken with a grain of salt. But that applies, or should apply, to almost everyone and everything we hear and/or read. His fondness for boxing isn’t comparable to his fondness for mixed martial arts; he knows on which side his bread is buttered. Arum is human. He makes mistakes. Still, if history is any guide, he has and continues to do a lot of things right. Maybe putting Manny in with Marquez a fourth time was a grave error. But to call it a money fight is like calling the sky blue or grass green.

C’mon, Dana, tell us something we don’t know.

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  1. Mike Schmidt 04:29am, 12/19/2012

    Nah—there was some urban legend floating around that Thresh was going to be in the vault—now that would have been gold or the price of Gold. Have a good holiday Sir…..

  2. THE THRESHER 04:22am, 12/19/2012

    Geraldo Riviera opening Al Capone’s vault- drum roll…..WAS WAY BEFORE YOUR TIME. I WAS IN THE VAULT ACTUALLY.

  3. Mike Schmidt 04:05am, 12/19/2012

    Fearless Editor Body shot is right on the button on this one—this aint about residency- Martinez in Oxnard and JMM in Houston (I think until recently??)—it’s about Country of Origin but of course—I have not looked at the P4P in sometime but I would have serious disagree with Andre over Money—despite all the posts about Mayweather handpicking opponents if you look at his record, long term, there is a whoooooole lot of tough guys on the hit list—Andre’s body or work not even close—YET!! El Grand Campeon Marquez should be moving up the ladder and I think bouncing Manny down that far, as many have, is not on target—all with due respect.

  4. Bodyshots 09:13pm, 12/18/2012

    i just noticed that Marquez and Martinez’s KO wins were so impressive, that they’re now being classified as “American” with a U.S. flag beside their names in this site’s P4P rankings(?!). Btw, those rankings need to be revised. No Way Donaire should be ranked above Marquez or a Klitschko for that matter. looks like Arum is at it again.

  5. Bodyshots 09:04pm, 12/18/2012

    SCHMIDT, i was at the Rios v. Abril fight. i was the pouty Mfr grumbling about Gamboa bailing from the fight-card AFter i had purchased the tix(?!). consequently, don’t anybody be surprised if i give Gamboa Hell on these message boards. the way i figure it, that s.o.b. owes me an FOY. fortunately, the night was salvaged by the Alvarado v. Herrera slugfest. that was a memorable and typically brutal “W” for Alvarado. anyway, Gamboa picked the wrongest time to quibble over contractual conditions or compensation rather than face Rios. the dehydrated “Bam-Bam” who couldn’t even make weight was ripe for the picking that night. i can only imagine his vulnerable state if he had forced himself to make 135lbs one last time. IMO, Rios would’ve been embarrassed that night. in fact, i think he was. anyway, Pacquiao’s* career trajectory has always reminded me of a Hollywood B-movie script: a good, popular, and charismatic fighter is pumped-up by wins v. carefully-selected and compromised opponents before being cashed-out by his calculating promoter v. a legitimately great fighter and an unprecedented payday. however, that great fighter’s name was supposed to be Mayweather not Marquez who was publicly threatened with KO retirement in their last two bouts. instead, he earns the KO vindication. IMO, conventional boxing logic regarding Marquez went out the window once he unified at 135lbs. many forget what a truly remarkeable feat that was at the time and certainly superior to Manny’s* one-off at 135lbs v. the lesser Diaz. from that point forward, Arum, Roach, and Pacquiao* should’ve known better than to underestimate Marquez. on the bright side, Manny* finally got his $25 million payday v. a fighter not named Mayweather. i can still recall when that amount was considered the promotional end-game for Arum. interesting how that amount is now considered a compromise for Manny*.

  6. Mike Schmidt 08:06pm, 12/18/2012

    Sorry—had to take a call—Benny “The Jet” Urquidez who probably would have kicked GSP’s ass all over the place. A true legend with great punching ability—one of the few….

  7. Mike Schmidt 08:04pm, 12/18/2012

    Keep em coming Bodyshots- yep Sanke River—The Evil Knievel movie was up there too—Snake River right up there with Geraldo Rivera opening Al Capone’s vault—drum roll…....NOTHING. Marquez had to wait damn near back-to-back four years and deserved this shot big time—career management is all fine and dandy but as a fan I want to see top guys go at it and short of Bradley in the rematch there isn’t anything at Welter that fits that bill for Manny. Bob Arum, after the Rios vs. Abril fight sat very intently to watch Marquez’s fight (they set up flat screen TVs around the ring at Mandalay Bay and if you wanted to hang around and watch the Marquez fight from Mexico you could)—Arum did not go to the press conference until well into the Marquez fight—what we saw was a guy that looked slow, bulky, and took time to dig into that fight—I think he fooled everybody in that fight was really only part of his training process moving forward—he was not even remotely at prime form—he looked beatable in a very big way. Arum had the right pick, Manny wanted it, and Marquez deserved it. And bodyshot you’re right—Royce Gracie was amazing to watch and the only guy worth his salt as stand up who would have made one hell of a fighter was Benny “the Jet”

  8. panfilo 06:22pm, 12/18/2012

    Dana was referring to POOR CAREER MANAGEMNT intended to stall the superfight. Those are valid points considering he’s a promoter himself.
    If Mayweather refuse a rematch with ODLH & moving-on after his 2 wins against Castillo, surely Pacquiao’s best career move would be to move-on or land a fight with FMJ. There’s really nothing to gain for Pac in his quadrilogy with JMM, other than that, the 4th fight was all for the benefit of Marquez. Rationality dictates that aside from Floyd any Mexican fighter will bring-in tons of money in a Pacfight. FACTS-FACTS-FACTS

  9. Bodyshots 06:16pm, 12/18/2012

    “. . . until what’s his name can pull off a Snake River Evil Knievel type of thing like Arum did” (lol). that’s a blast from the past. i can vividly remember us neighborhood kids crowded around the television set for that anticlimactic spectacle. Evil’s profile never really recovered from that hit. anyway, i can honestly say that i barely know who what’s his name is, if at all. i’m among those fight-fans who think UFC is little more than glorified alley brawls between glorified alley brawlers. i did watch in the very beginning and actually became a fan of Gracie’s specialized skill-set but beyond that, it seemed like a brutal free-for-all. meanwhile, can someone please direct me to the articles of those “busy praising Marquez for the win”? thus far, everything i’ve read has ranged from qualified praise (at best), grudging resignation, and bitter accusations of doping. i’ve yet to come across an article with unequivocal praise of Marquez’s performance v. Pacquiao*. i’ve gotta admit, not even i was aware of the depth of Manny-worship. even among experienced fight-fans who should’ve known better. i believe it was Raxman(?) who said it best: “Pacquiao[*] was a very good fighter but he was only great when the matchmaking was great” and it’s always been Arum’s matchmaking talent that made Pacquiao* “great”.

  10. Mike Schmidt 05:23pm, 12/18/2012

    PS that “Moron” has more than helped make a whole lot of fighters, Mayweather and Oscar included, Manny, Ali, Duran etc etc etc a whole lot money—and more, and more. Manny was ruined -he only got his 25 million—unfucking believably stupid. Some of these guys shitting on the promoters remind me of good old Coyote/Shep Bronson—he used to go out and shit on his own lawn in the morning and then come in and stare at his dinner bowl—empty. The next day he shit in the woods behind our house—dinner was ready. Don’t shit on the property of the guy that has kept you in the feed-business 101—WHY ARE WE GIVING DANA AIRTIME ON A BOXING SITE BY THE BY? HE LIKES LISTENING TO HIMSELF TALK SO FUCKING MUCH HE SHOULD TAKE A FEW ACTING LESSONS FROM CHRISTOPHER PLUMMER AND SHIP ON OVER TO BROADWAY and do the one man show—OF COURSE THEY ARE PROBABLY MORONS AS WELL…....

  11. MIKE SCHMIDT 04:16pm, 12/18/2012

    Yes Thresher—White is a “shrewd” businessman. Now I am always interested in the rock throwers—Who would you have had Manny fight? Annnnnd last time I looked Champions are supposed to step up and fight the tough guys—and certainly the guy that many thought beat them in their last scrap—so two thumbs up to Manny for taking the fight—You can’t win—either Mr. Bob Arum is not making the good fights yada yada yada or….....what fight was he supposed to take—Bradley and avoid JMM altogether—or simply die of old age playing reindeer games with Champion Mayweather? Lastly I think White is probably forgetting one other big thing—the little Filipino guy ain’t done yet—if he were to fight Marquez in 5 and resoundingly beat him—you and I both know the drums will again bang and bang big time. Now that was a great job done with Brock Lesnar HA HA HA HARDEEE HA HA….

  12. MMel 03:56pm, 12/18/2012

    Pacquiao beat Pacquiao if Pac is focus on his boxing career nobody can beat him even a roided Marquez!!

  13. the thresher 03:25pm, 12/18/2012

    Arghh

  14. Robert Ecksel 02:30pm, 12/18/2012

    Wrong. They’re not my words. They’re Dana White’s words. That’s why they were in quotes. When you write that you agree with him 100%  I take you at your word, which is why I asked for clarification in the first place.

  15. the thresher 02:17pm, 12/18/2012

    And moron and idiot were your words; not mine.

  16. THE THRESHER 02:16pm, 12/18/2012

    No, But I agree with White that Manny should never have fought JMM.

  17. Robert Ecksel 02:04pm, 12/18/2012

    Only a 100% correct? Why not 110% correct? Can we assume you think Arum is a “moron” and “idiot” as well?

  18. the thresher 11:28am, 12/18/2012

    White is 100% correct. He also is a shred businessman. Arum made 25 Million for Manny but he also ruined Manny.

  19. Mike Schmidt 08:23am, 12/18/2012

    Why do we give this guy airwaves (I know I am guilty as charged as well…. my article on Joe’s Paramount boxing) - obviously Boxing is irritating the shit out of what’s his name (I will not use his name anymore. ). Seriously though when Dana, err what’s his name has a track record as long and as successful as Mr. Bob Arum—let’s see how Dana is doing in say…. the year 2050 (that should match Top Rank years of success).  Besides until what’s his name can pull off a Snake River Evil Knievel type of thing like Arum did—well hell he just does not count—Until then to steal a line from that famous philosopher from Easton, Sir Larry Holmes, Dana could not carry Bob’s jockstrap although all that grappling stuff does come close to jock strap stuff. What’s his name is just trying to ride the coattails of another huge Top Rank pay per view Promotion by jumping on the back end of some free publicity. Off to the beach to do some underwater stuff—if the Sharks don’t get me, professional courtesy aside, will talk in a few days fearless Editor.

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