Mayweather vs. Ortiz: Head vs. Heart

By Adam Berlin on September 16, 2011
Mayweather vs. Ortiz: Head vs. Heart
The sad part is that Floyd Mayweather Jr. is destined for destitution (Chris Cozzone)

To deny these feelings, gut and heart feelings, to operate solely and soullessly on the cerebral plane, is to negate boxing’s primal attraction…

The art of boxing may be more head than heart—great fighters are usually smart fighters while brave fighters often end sprawled, albeit heroically, on the canvas—but boxing fans invariably root from the heart. While we should listen to the odds makers, who make cold, surgeon-like calculations, creating spreads based on stats instead of hunches, we usually don’t, placing bets on what we hope will happen rather than what we think will happen. It’s the pipe part of the pipe dream. It’s the reason bookies thrive. But it’s also more. Boxing is a visceral sport, so visceral it’s beyond sport, and when I sit down to watch a fight on the comfort of my couch or at a press table, ringside, adrenaline pumps to my heart, not my head. To see a fight is to feel. And so when predicting how a fight will play out, pitting one man’s past against another man’s past and imagining how each man will fare, feelings, gut feelings and heart feelings, come in. To deny these feelings, to operate solely and soullessly on the cerebral plane, is to negate boxing’s primal attraction. I’d rather lose a bet than lose my pre-fight adrenaline rush.

Last time Floyd Mayweather fought, in May 2010, I made the case for a Shane Mosley victory precisely because I shunned what my head was telling me. I was happily fooled for a brief moment in Round 2, when Mosley tagged Mayweather and stunned him, but then truth set in and Mayweather shut his old opponent down, winning by a 10-point margin.

I’ve been fooled enough times where the shame is on me, but I still refuse to pull my heart, my feelings, out of the equation where boxing is concerned. Once again, Mayweather’s opponent does not possess Mayweather’s innate speed and talent. Once again, the odds makers are making Mayweather the prohibitive favorite, this time at around 5 to 1. Once again, my head is telling me to bet on the man with the 41-0 record and not the kid who is 29-2-2. But my heart belongs with Victor Ortiz for this fight and while I may be fooling myself once again, I believe there’s a chance, and not just a slim chance, that the young man from rough-and-tumble Oxnard, California, can beat the showman who now lives in Vegas. 

Activity

Mayweather vs. Ortiz is an interesting match-up for several reasons. The first pits inactivity vs. frequent activity.  Floyd Mayweather has not fought for sixteen months, which is too long a layoff for any ordinary fighter. Ring rust is not just a metaphor. Quick reflexes slow without practice. Sharp timing dulls without use. But Floyd Mayweather is such a special fighter that it’s hard to say whether he’ll come in rusty or fresh. Last time Mayweather took a year off from boxing, his knowledge of boxing’s science did not lose any of its sweetness as he humiliated Juan Manuel Marquez. Yes, he was bigger than Marquez. Yes, he was younger than Marquez, not just in chronological age but in ring years. But Marquez was still a marquee fighter. Mayweather controlled every minute of that fight and every inch of that ring, relegating a Hall-of-Fame headliner to off-off-Broadway status. 

Conversely, Ortiz has fought four times during Mayweather’s hiatus, which means he’s fight ready—at 24 he’s young enough where staying busy, very busy, is an asset. All four fights were against strong opposition and one senses that this young fighter’s learning curve is on the upswing, that he gained valuable boxing knowledge with each bout. Against Nate Campbell, he outboxed a slick boxer. Against veteran Vivian Harris, he used power to make it an early night. Against Lamont Peterson he struggled, but Peterson is a tough fighter with real skill and determination and, to Ortiz’s credit, he didn’t buckle when Peterson exerted his trademark pressure. And against Andre Berto, Ortiz used skill and power to beat down HBO’s darling. I’ve never admired Berto and was waiting for the overhyped, under-tested fighter to fall. Berto had shown a vulnerable chin before, but no one exploited his thin whiskers until Ortiz stepped into the ring. The back and forth was furious at times, but by fight’s end, Ortiz was clearly the stronger man and the man with the greater will. And this, a strong will, and whether or not Ortiz had a genuine fighting spirit, was the elephant in the ring the night Victor Ortiz fought Andre Berto. Ortiz’s only major blemish was his loss to Marcos Maidana, the bull from Argentina who never quits. Against Maidana, Ortiz delivered punishing blows, but he also received punishing blows, and in Round 6 Ortiz wilted, more mentally defeated than physically defeated. As his post-fight comments suggested, Victor Ortiz made a choice to exit the fight. He’d had enough of Maidana and his fans wondered if he’d also had enough of boxing. To Ortiz’s credit he came back mentally tougher and against Berto, Ortiz showed an iron will. He got up from the canvas. He brushed off heavy shots. He persevered through 12 rounds of hard work. And he won the welterweight title. To be sure, Mayweather is royalty next to a pedestrian Andre Berto, but he probably doesn’t hit harder. By beating Berto, by staying active, by solidifying his will to win, Ortiz must be confident that he can weather Mayweather’s best shots. The question is if he can handle Mayweather’s ring savvy, if he can land flush, and if he can bully Mayweather into back-and-forth exchanges, something Mayweather usually avoids. If Mayweather is at all rusty, there’s a chance Ortiz can usurp the ring general, establish his own dominance, and make this a fight. My heart tells me he can.

Fear

If the pre-fight build-up, the stare downs and the face-offs and the war of words, is any indication of truth, Victor Ortiz is not afraid of Floyd Mayweather. Ortiz’s rough past, a cruel mixture of poverty and abandonment, has been well chronicled during the build-up to many of his fights, but Ortiz seems to have come to terms with his past. When he speaks of his parents who left him as a young child, and when he speaks about having to care for his kid brother, a younger child, Ortiz appears calm and forgiving. This may be a mask, but even if it is, Ortiz has channeled his past into strength and motivation.  By Ortiz’s reasoning, years of hardship put 36 minutes of fight time into perspective. By Mayweather’s reasoning, Ortiz has never faced a master technician, which Mayweather certainly is. During one press conference, when Ortiz showed up with his belt slung over his shoulder, Mayweather, always the braggart, stated, “I’ve got about six of those.” There’s no need to fear Mayweather’s power, but there is a reason to fear his experience, his pedigree, and his knowledge of the game—Mayweather is indeed one those great fighters who is smart, smart enough to beat all comers, smart enough to build himself into a star attraction. Love him or hate him, we all know Floyd Mayweather and whether we tune in to see him get his ass kicked or to watch the master at work, Pretty Boy Floyd’s pay-per-view numbers are impressive. He’s a man who, I believe, is deeply uncomfortable with himself. His constant need to assert himself must come from some dark places. Yet he is remarkably comfortable in the public eye. When the brightest spotlights shine on Floyd Mayweather, he steps up. This will be the first time Victor Ortiz will be fighting a mega-fight, but again, my heart tells me that he will handle the moment, that he won’t be daunted by millions watching his every move, that he’ll focus on the one man in front of him and fearlessly come forward, not only to fight, but to win.

Corner

Floyd Mayweather comes from a boxing family, but I have always seen him as a solitary man. Victor Ortiz’s past is a brutal backstory and hearing him speak of his hardships tugs at the heartstrings—how can you not root for a young man who speaks so thoughtfully, who seems to possess genuine forgiveness, who has come from so little and made so much and who, most recently, seized his second chance at a title and won with skill and will? But if the same emotional notes were used to describe Floyd Mayweather’s past, notes of empathy, notes of making something out of nothing, Floyd Mayweather’s story would be equally heartbreaking. His father was absent, in prison for much of Floyd’s life. Junior’s need to follow in his father’s footsteps and his further need to surpass his father’s accomplishments points to a son torn between love and hate, between wanting to be connected to a once-absent father and wanting to be separated from a now-present father. We only have to watch and listen to the last 10 minutes of HBO’s first segment of 24/7 to appreciate Floyd Jr.’s turmoil. What starts as playful nipping quickly turns to venomous biting, with Floyd Sr. screaming at his son, trying to get past Floyd Jr.’s bodyguards so he can smack his upstart kid, while young Floyd dismisses old Floyd as a second-rate fighter and a second-rate trainer. Perhaps Floyd is like all sons, always the son to the father, always trying to make his own mark, but here, with the cameras rolling, the Mayweather clan is exposed in all its dysfunctional glory. To his credit, Floyd Jr. walks away and that’s the image we’re left with: Floyd Mayweather Jr. behind a wall of wide men but, in truth, alone in the locker room, back turned to his father.

Without a father in his metaphorical corner, Floyd Jr. attached himself to Uncle Roger, who became a father figure and now literally mans Floyd’s corner during fights. But here too, I have always felt Floyd was alone. No matter how much Floyd praises his uncle turned trainer, I don’t buy it. Roger Mayweather was an exciting fighter, a fighter I rooted for with my heart, especially on the night Pernell Whitaker pulled down Roger’s trunks while they were fighting—fueled by Sweet Pea’s disrespectful clowning, Roger Mayweather smacked Pernell around for at least the rest of that round. But these days Roger looks all of his 50 years and then some. His dazed eyes and garbled speech could make him the poster boy for boxing’s lingering and damaging effects. Between rounds, when Floyd returns to his corner and sits on his stool for that precious minute of rest, I feel for this lonely fighter who half-listens to his uncle’s worthless instructions. It’s a testament to Floyd’s boxing genius that he usually knows exactly what to do to get the job done, but eventually Floyd’s weak corner is going to hurt him.

On the flip side, Ortiz has his back covered by trainer Danny Garcia. Danny Garcia is Robert Garcia’s older brother. Robert was the more successful boxer, an IBF super featherweight champion, and the more renowned trainer, but when Victor and Robert parted ways, Victor asked Danny to take over the helm. The two trainer/brothers have been feuding in recent months (family feuds are one of the fight game’s recurring themes), but Victor seems to be handling this bit of drama with distance and maturity (as is Danny Garcia). When Victor describes his connection to Danny, it sounds like he’s talking about family. Add to the mix Victor’s brother Temo, the brother whom Victor bravely “fathered” as a child, and you have a tight knit group, a group that has worked closely together in the weeks leading up to the fight. Victor Ortiz has a support system in place. And on fight night, Danny Garcia is sure to give sager advice than Roger Mayweather. Victor Ortiz knows how to fend for himself, he has been tested the way most young men will, thankfully, never be tested. But fighters rely on their corners and a good corner provides a powerful edge, serving as a set of objective eyes, discovering weaknesses in the opposition that the fighter, in the blinding heat of conflict, does not always see. When it comes to the difference in corners, it’s not just my heart speaking; my head tells me Ortiz has the advantage. If Victor Ortiz is able to impose his will, at least a little, on Floyd Mayweather, if he can move Floyd out of his usual comfort zone and get into the psyche of a conflicted and lonely man who insists he has nothing to fear, Mayweather’s inept corner could be a serious factor in this fight.

Name

“Money” versus “Vicious.” If ring names ring true, and in the case of Floyd Mayweather and Victor Ortiz I believe they do, then Saturday’s fight will have symbolic significance. This is the biggest reason why my heart is with Victor Ortiz. 

Floyd Mayweather’s career is fueled by money. The clips are endless. Mayweather holding up his Benjamins. Mayweather flipping bills into the air. Mayweather recounting his night’s winnings at the casino, or listing off his possessions, or bragging about his mansion, paid in full, cash money. It would be naïve to think that professional fighters are not driven by money and it would be equally naïve to think that Money May is only driven by money. He’s proud of his undefeated record. He heralds himself pound-for-pound king. He wants to go down in history as one of the all-time greats. But lately, money, easy money, does seem to be Mayweather’s key motivator. I want my champions motivated by something higher. Mayweather has avoided Pacquaio, and in so doing he has lost out on a great (and greatly difficult) payday. But worse, he has denied boxing fans the one fight we all want to see. No matter which side of the doping controversy you’re on, the truth is that Pacquaio continues to seek glory, for himself and for his country—in the time that Mayweather has remained idle, Manny has fought Joshua Clottey, Antonio Margarito, and Shane Mosley. Aside from getting into trouble, Floyd has done nothing for 16 months but talk.  After a while, it’s tiring to hear Money May’s rants about everything material. 

Victor Ortiz grew up poor. He wants to make his millions and Golden Boy Promotions, which is all about the gold, will insure that he does. But when Victor talks about this fight, he talks about beating the man in front of him. He talks about hoping the best Mayweather will come to the fight, not a Mayweather with excuses, not a Mayweather who is rusty, not a Mayweather who didn’t train hard enough because he foresees bigger paydays on the horizon. Victor Ortiz wants to mix it up with the pound-for-pound-best version of Floyd Mayweather. He may be thinking money, but it’s clear that Victor Ortiz is motivated by much more than money. And while Victor Ortiz speaks with warmth and modesty about most topics, when he speaks about his upcoming fight his demeanor changes. His eyes go hard. His tone turns cocky. Suddenly the vicious is very apparent in “Vicious” Victor Ortiz. If it’s boxing, I’ll root for Vicious over Money every time. Viciousness points to the heart-of-darkness, a place where fights reside. Making money points somewhere else, a place closer to the head.  And these days money, big money, has a bad name. Capitalism has run rampant in our country, Wall Street’s money-at-all-costs mentality has bankrupted our nation, and in 2011 making money is less about Horatio Alger-style perseverance and determination (virtues in both life and boxing), and more about greed, the kind of greed that allows you to toss bills in the air while laughing. The sad part is that Floyd Mayweather Jr. is destined for destitution. He shows all the signs of becoming a boxing cliché. Boxing’s big spenders, the ones who drive luxury cars in the fast lane, invariably end their careers in the breakdown lane. By all reports, Money May came out of “retirement” because of his financial woes. It wasn’t glory that brought him back to the ring. It was the too-mighty dollar.

What’s in a name? Perhaps everything.

Head vs. Heart

And then there are the tangibles, the cerebral breakdown that has nothing to do with gut feelings: height goes to Ortiz, reach goes to Mayweather, power goes to Ortiz, speed goes to Mayweather, exuberant youth goes to Ortiz, calculated experience goes to Mayweather. It’s a list of checks and balances, but the odds makers have decided, logically, thoughtfully, that the Mayweather ledger of experience and skill surpasses the Ortiz ledger of youth and power. It’s the smart assessment, but not the complete assessment. This is an exciting fight on paper, and it will hopefully translate to an exciting fight on pay-per view, but boxing isn’t played out on graphs or charts. After these two men step through the ropes, after their names are announced, ring names and real names, after the MGM crowd explodes with excitement, the bell is going to ring. And then the beauty of boxing, where man faces man, alone yet together, will begin. A big part of boxing’s beauty remains undefined and it’s precisely this, the undefined, the impossibility of thinking through and articulating exactly why we love the fights, that keeps us coming back to boxing. The pull is in our hearts, not our heads.

Floyd “Money” Mayweather against “Vicious” Victor Ortiz. I’m ignoring the odds and going with Ortiz. My prediction is more heart than head, but the case I’ve made here is more than heartfelt. My head is telling me Victor Ortiz has a real chance and not just a slim chance to snatch Mayweather’s crown. My heart is telling me Victor Ortiz can’t lose. Saturday night will tell me whether I’ve fooled myself once again. 

If I have, it won’t be the last time.

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  1. dhel 02:35am, 09/20/2011

    i dont want to watch mayweather fight again. it s a bullshit guy

  2. David Slater 10:22pm, 09/17/2011

    CHEAP SHOT!  Shouldn’t Mayweather have been disqualified for punching while the fighters were still timed out after the penalty?  Can Ortiz file a protest on this basis?

  3. David Slater 10:09pm, 09/17/2011

    CHEAP SHOT!  I’m thinking that Ortiz should file a protest that Mayweather should have been disqualified for sucker punching him before the ref timed the fight back in.

  4. "Old Yank" Schneider 08:30pm, 09/17/2011

    Repeat after me: “I pledge to never spend another DIME on a Mayweather fight!”

  5. "Old Yank" Schneider 08:29pm, 09/17/2011

    Protect yourself at all tines is for fighters who forget this is a SPORT!

  6. "Old Yank" Schneider 08:28pm, 09/17/2011

    Mayweather is a CLASSLESS PIECE OF $HIT!

  7. "Old Yank" Schneider 03:38pm, 09/17/2011

    I just closed out my open leg at -585 on Mayweather! (not the -500 I wanted, but I KNEW it would close more!)  I CAN’T LOSE!!!!!!!!!

  8. "Old Yank" Schneider 12:09pm, 09/17/2011

    The Thresher—If a singular book existed that summed up pre-fight analysis on this bout, you’d be the “nailed it” author.  The script has been written and we have every expectation Mayweather and Ortiz will read their lines without flaw.  So I will raise a glass to Duran and Douglas and Zivic and Turpin and Clay and Leon Spinks and Lloyd Honeyghan for forgetting their lines when it mattered most.

  9. "Old Yank" Schneider 12:02pm, 09/17/2011

    Indeed, Mayweather by UD.  I need some Rolaids—still have a odd feel about this.  A savvy friend and damn good handicapper predicted a KO by Ortiz in the 10th.  He said it won’t be because the best man wins, but because he senses something is temporarily out of kilter.  He specifically pointed to the stunning lack of any footage of Mayweather sparring.  This has come up SEVERAL times now in discussions I’ve been having with people.  Can anyone provide a logical answer for why we’ve not seen any of Mayweather’s sparring sessions?

  10. Pablo Edwin Obregon 11:58am, 09/17/2011

    I made my prediction months ago, and it seems everyone is just echoing what I said. Mayweather will take a young, strong, hungry, abandoned, etc. fighter to boxing school and that is the bottom line. This fight will end whenever Floyd wants it to end. Victor doesn’t have the skills to beat Money Mayweather.

  11. tony cruz 11:40am, 09/17/2011

    interesting fight , winner should face pacman next before pacman retires in 2013 , this will determine the best p4p fighter in the world

  12. mikecasey 11:16am, 09/17/2011

    We’ll need wings to stay above it, Ted!

  13. The Thresher 11:09am, 09/17/2011

    Given the over-the-top hype for this one, can yhou imagine how much hype there would be for PAC-MAY?

  14. mikecasey 10:57am, 09/17/2011

    Mayweather by unanimous decision if he’s conservative - by TKO in 10 if he steps on it. I don’t think the fight will end early - famous last words!

  15. The Thresher 10:25am, 09/17/2011

    Fight time: 9:00 p.m. EDT
    Location: MGM Grand - Las Vegas, NV (Alvarez vs Gomez from Staples Center - Los Angeles, CA)
    TV channel: HBO PPV (United States, $54.99-69.99), Primetime (United Kingdom, £14.95)
    Odds: Mayweather is between a -600 and -800 favorite, with Ortiz between +400 and +525.

  16. The Thresher 10:22am, 09/17/2011

    Yes, on the part of Mayweather but Ortiz is not a great boxer. He is a boxer/puncher/slugger. It will be the matador and the bull.

  17. Ricky 09:58am, 09/17/2011

    Tonight is gonna be some good boxing… Ricky…..
    Saturday September 16 ......2011…...

  18. The Thresher 09:19am, 09/17/2011

    The Outcome


    While Ortiz clearly has power and can be extremely dangerous early, especially if Floyd should evidence ring rust, I don’t see that as likely. It will take more than Victor Ortiz to break Floyd’s undefeated mark.


    My expectation is that after an explosive start, Ortiz will be contained within the tight cocoon of Floyd Mayweather Junior’s well-designed fight plan. Little Floyd will neutralize the explosive Ortiz after round 4 and then begin to find his rhythm in the mid rounds. Mayweather should finish the fight in cruise control using sharp counters, punishing and unanswered leads to Victor’s face (ala the Ricky Hatton fight), and an impenetrable defense unlike any Victor has seen. 

    I predict a dominant unanimous decision for Mayweather as he moves to 42-0.

  19. The Thresher 09:18am, 09/17/2011

    The Hype:


    An extremely hungry and “Vicious’ Victor Ortiz (29-2-2) is young, explosive and heavy handed. He has improved with each outing and has made fans forget about the Maidana debacle. As in the Berto brawl, he will perpetrate his unique brand of shock and awe on Floyd Mayweather Jr. early and if Little Floyd (41-0) is rusty, Victor will hurt him and then exploit Floyd’s suddenly faded reflexes caused in part by 1) lack of ring activity and 2) by external legal issues. It’s within the realm of possibility that Floyd grows old overnight in the manner of Kostya Tszyu and Dariusz Michalczewski. It can happen.


    The reality:

    Arguably, Floyd is the best or second best P4P fighter in the world. Ortiz does not belong anywhere near the top ten. Floyd IS the guy who schooled Juan Manuel Marquez over 12 dominant rounds. Ortiz IS the guy who drew with Lamont Peterson just two fights ago.


    Floyd is not is not Andre Berto whose style provided Ortiz with the perfect partner with whom to display his highly combustible style of fighting.  That kind of fight is not Floyd’s and he is to savvy to be lured into something he doesn’t like.


    Thus, like assessing a mutual fund, one needs to look at past performance to judge the future. In this regard, Mayweather always shows up with his cylinders finely tuned and there is no reason to believe that won’t be the case on September 17. He also always shows up with his full arsenal of superb skills the likes of which Vicious Victor can only dream about.

  20. The Thresher 09:09am, 09/17/2011

    Roger has a symbiosis with Floyd that is rare and that is based on mutual respect. Garcia is a rougue hated by his own family. Absolutely no comparison based on past results.

  21. raxman 08:05am, 09/17/2011

    nice read - but i can’t believe you’ve actually tried to convince us that ortiz has the superior corner - danny garcia? what is he? like a truck driver or something? he’s superior to roger mayweather? come on mate. maybe thats the gag part of the article. if you actually listen to what roger says during round breaks in the mosley fight you’d know he still knows his shit - granted he may not have the verbal acuity or mellifluous tones of Brother Nazim but he clearly knows what he sees and what to say - half the battle of a cornerman is to have the trust of his fighter and roger clearly has that. ortiz, vs maidana, was being punished well before he pulled plug in the 6th, garcia should’ve seen that coming and either a) stirred the fire in his fighters belly or b) taken the decision away from him and called the fight himself, saving his fighters pride in the process

  22. Mary Lynn McDavid posting for Tommy "Irish" Eaglin 05:51am, 09/17/2011

    The skill, determination, and heart of a fighter could probably be put into a mathematical equation that could predict a fighter’s success [this is something that seasoned matchmakers do automatically—no formula needed].  I mean you can get by if you have X amount of skill and X amount of dedication (less than normal or average), but to go far you need X amount of heart, or that deep down gut.  With me if someone knocked me down, I became ferocious and would likely knock the guy out.  I don’t know if my brand of heart is a better one, just different.  Maybe for the game of boxing, mine was better.  I didn’t have any quit in me.  I know when some guys get hurt they try and outbox the guy or put on their track shoes and run.  People in the crowd don’t like that.  I wasn’t much of a thinker at that point.  Sure, I ducked and threw hooks and uppercuts, but it was more an automatic reaction.  I mean, I went and just threw myself into it.  Actually, I loved those times.  You aren’t fighting for money or recognition.  You aren’t fighting to hear the crowd chant your name.  This man in front of you is doing his best to beat you down.  He wants the air you are breathing.  He wants to assert himself above you.  None of the other stuff matters.  When you are healthy and feeling it, there is no better place to be in the world.  You are free and alive like no other time.  It is a drug.  When you don’t have it anymore, you miss it.  You jones for battle.  I’m sure some soldiers could describe the same battle-lust.  It is unreal. 

    I don’t really know if it’s that way for all fighters.  I believe from watching Gatti fight that he was that way—Tyson when he was younger.  I’ve seen the look in their eyes.  I don’t know if it’s the “eye of the tiger,” as much as it’s the eye of soul and spirit and life and death.  The eye of the absolute.  That part of a man’s soul that says HERE I AM!  I used to see pictures of Mike Singletary (Bears linebacker) right before the snap of the ball.  Those eyes.  He felt it.  He was in that place of truth.  It’s one of those things that words just cannot do justice.  It’s like love.  I believe they come from the same place.  You are loving the fight—the competition.  You love being who you are! 

    Now don’t get me wrong, this “juice” is not always there when you want.  It sometimes only comes in a trickle when you need a whole fountain.  That trickle will keep you on your feet when some guy is kicking your ass, but if you have not done your due diligence by practicing, eating right, living right, then the full flow of that fountain hasn’t been cleared.  That’s what I think all that stuff is for.  It’s like religious acts of piety; any sport is a discipline—a form of yoga.  You get to that place of truth.  I’m not sure that it’s the same for everyone.  There are ways to describe this that I’ve never put into words before.  When you “dig deep” and find your truth, it doesn’t really matter how you get there. 
    Excerpt from letter dated 9/7/11:

  23. David Slater 10:52pm, 09/16/2011

    Berlin’s articles are a lot more interesting and compelling than any pre-fight hype.  While Berlin makes some very good arguments for Ortiz, I think Mayweather will win because he is still in a higher, more tested league than Ortiz.  We shall see.

  24. "Old Yank" Schneider 07:04pm, 09/16/2011

    The Thresher—Indeed the book is OBVIOUS!  Why even post it?  A #1 or #2 pound for pound fighter (Mayweather) is facing a fighter who is not on anyone’s p-4-p list (Ortiz).  Perhaps with odds now in the +400 to + 525 neighborhood on Ortiz (4:1 to 5.25:1), you can now APPRECIATE my salivation over the early 8:1, 10:1 and even 12:1 that was available early (+800, +1,000 and + 1,200).

  25. "Old Yank" Schneider 06:56pm, 09/16/2011

    Adam—I love the reactionary tone of your article.  Brilliant!

  26. The Thresher 04:49pm, 09/16/2011

    Nice piece, Adam. Here are the odds:


    Sportsbook
    Mayweather
    Ortiz


    5Dimes
    -750


    +525


    BetUS
    -600


    +400


    Bodog
    -625


    +425


    SBG Global
    -800


    +500


    Sportsbook.com
    -625


    +425

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