Povetkin-Chagaev vs. Holyfield?

By Robert Ecksel on August 26, 2011
Povetkin-Chagaev vs. Holyfield?
Holyfield's chances of dethroning either man are slim to none—and Slim just left town

Holyfield believes that god is in his corner, whispering in his ear, telling his to keep his hands up and chin down, advising him to keep barreling forward…

Don’t let the title fool you. Alexander Povetkin (21-0, 15 KOs) and Ruslan Chagaev (27-1-1, 17 KOs) won’t both be fighting Evander Holyfield at the same time, however interesting that might be. But the winner of Saturday’s WBA heavyweight title scrap at Messehalle, Erfurt, Thüringen, Germany, might face 48-year-old Evander Holyfield as his first challenger.

It has been reported that Holyfield (44-10-2, 29 KOs) has met with German promoter Kalle Sauerland and expressed his desire to get it on with the newly crowned champ. Since Sauerland didn’t laugh (or cry) and throw Evander out of his office at the mere suggestion an epic mismatch, means that it might happen, whether we want it to happen or not.

Holyfield will be 49 when and if he faces the winner of Povetkin-Chagaev. He’ll be a year older than he is now, but he will not be a year wiser. The former champion is more former than champion these days, and his chances of dethroning either man are slim to none—and Slim just left town.

Because of his name and past achievements, Holyfield is still a bankable opponent. But he’s fighting way past his recommended shelf life. Evander’s shining moment was more than TWO DECADES ago when he KO’d Buster Douglas in 1990 to win the WBC/WBA/IBF heavyweight titles. At the time, Holyfield was viewed a little more than a blown-up cruiserweight and the experts said it couldn’t be done. But it could be done, and The Real Deal was the man who did it.

Holyfield was a great champion. He fought his heart out each and every time he climbed through the ropes, and his battles with Riddick Bowe, Mike Tyson, and Lennox Lewis always showed Evander, whether he won or lost, in glorious full-fledged warrior mode.

But his career has been spotty for a decade. Since he lost to Lewis in 1999, he’s fought 16 times, lost six of those bouts, with one NC. Of his six losses, two were for heavyweight titles, a rout by Sultan Ibragimov in 2007and a MD loss to Nikolay Valuev in 2008. 

Holyfield believes he’ll be heavyweight champion again someday, that god is in his corner, whispering in his ear, telling his to keep his hands up and chin down, advising him to keep barreling forward. But some cornermen aren’t all they’re cracked up to be.

No doubt the winner of Povetkin vs. Chagaev would like a soft touch in his first title defense. But beating up a delusional 49-year-old man will prove nothing to nobody. Holyfield won’t retire of his own free will. He’ll have to be carried out of the ring.

The time has passed for Evander to be a lovable old codger hawking grills, and he’s never been glib or verbal enough to get behind a microphone and start calling fights. But there must be something Holyfield can do besides fighting. Since he won’t listen to reason, maybe we should take god the cornerman aside and tell him what we think.

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  1. The Thresher 04:15pm, 08/30/2011

    How can Teddy square his anger about corruption in boxing with his acknowledgment that Pov won a “Championship”?

  2. Joe 03:44am, 08/29/2011

    Looks like I may be able to promote a show here in the Circle City.  In any case, Teddy should be ashamed of himself if he allows his charge to beat up this old man.

  3. The Thresher 05:39pm, 08/27/2011

    Peace

  4. "Old Yank" Schneider 01:00pm, 08/27/2011

    Thresher—Look man—I’ve been a loyal reader and follower of yours for a long, long time.  PEACE!

  5. The Thresher 11:39am, 08/27/2011

    Don’t you dare threaten me. Not now, not ever.You want to threaten me, you drive up to North Conway, NH and stop by and do it in person. I have no intention of taking any crap from the likes of you or any other keyboard warrior who talks tough but would not know what to do if they saw my 6’2” 255 pounds of pure meanness, menace and malice coming down the road.  If you continue to insult me,  I will leave this site ASAP.  If it’s criticism or serious debate over one of my articles, fine. But calling me brain-dead and Pollyanna are a tad different from a friendly joust of “Senator Joe” around which you failed to see the humor because you seem to be so wrapped up in yourself. And if you continue to stalk me with 3 or 4 posts to every one of mine, I will deal with as well. You want friendly debate, fine. Insults on a personal level are not fine and calling me a “dumb ass” will not work out well for all concerned. And assuming I did not know about Evans Hollis is probably the worst insult of all. Again, if this continues, I’m gone.

  6. "Old Yank" Schneider 11:25am, 08/27/2011

    Hey POLLYANNA…you asked me to “prove it”.  Remember?  Now take your gincoba like a good old man and see if it awakens any recent memories.  Signed, Joseph McCarthy

  7. "Old Yank" Schneider 11:22am, 08/27/2011

    I guess I should have taken this as a compliment?  “You are worse than Joe McCarthy.”  K-off!

  8. "Old Yank" Schneider 11:21am, 08/27/2011

    The Thresher—You accuse me of being a protege of Joseph McCarthy and complain that the insult is returned?  You are BRAIN DEAD my old friend, BRAIN DEAD!  I make you a PROMISE—hurl them my way and I will return them.  GROW UP!

  9. The Thresher 11:09am, 08/27/2011

    Please spare me your personal insults. This is not ESB.

  10. "Old Yank" Schneider 10:19am, 08/27/2011

    In 2003, Michael Kalinski, a former top Soviet sports scientist, released documents about the Soviet Union cheating in Olympic sports via the systematic use of banned anabolic steroids.  The environment Evander Holyfield was expecting to compete in in 1984 was a steroid-filled competition between sports scientists.  Indeed the Soviet Union boycotted the 1984 Summer Olympics so Evander did not compete against Soviet boxers.  However, the competition between and amongst sports scientists experimenting with steroids was well underway.  Al Capone was NEVER convicted of trafficking booze—I guess it was only McCarthy types who thought him capable of it.  And Holyfield has never been “convicted” of using steroids.  Again, I guess only McCarthy types could even think it possible.

  11. "Old Yank" Schneider 10:04am, 08/27/2011

    In two separate raids on illegal steroid pharmacies Evander Holyfield’s name comes up.  Must be those damn McCarthy types planting his name all over the place!  Holyfield staged his comeback in 2006 and a year later his name pops up in a raid on a clinic that provides HGH and other steroids to pro athletes.  P-O-L-L-Y-A-N-N-A!

  12. "Old Yank" Schneider 09:58am, 08/27/2011

    On February 28, 2007, Holyfield was anonymously linked to Applied Pharmacy Services, a pharmacy in Alabama that is currently under investigation for supplying athletes with illegal steroids and human growth hormone (HGH). He denies ever using performance enhancers.[33]

    Holyfield’s name does not appear in the law enforcement documents reviewed. However, a patient by the name of “Evan Fields” caught investigators’ attention. “Fields” shares the same birth date as Holyfield—October 19, 1962. The listed address for “Fields” was 794 Evander, Fairfield, Ga. 30213. Holyfield has a very similar address. When the phone number that, according to the documents, was associated with the “Fields” prescription, was dialed, Holyfield answered.[34]

    On March 10, 2007 Holyfield made a public announcement that he would be pursuing his own investigation into the steroid claims in order to clear his name.[35]

    Holyfield was again linked to HGH in September 2007, when his name came up following a raid of Signature Pharmacy in Orlando, Florida.[36]. As of September 2007, Signature Pharmacy is under investigation for illegally supplying several professional athletes with steroids and HGH.[37] (SOURCE: my hated Wikipedia)

  13. "Old Yank" Schneider 09:54am, 08/27/2011

    The Thresher—As a result of the BALCO investigation a series of “Freedom of Information Act” docs were filed—records were obtained.  On the list of customers for a KNOWN PEDS “pharmacy” was “Evan Fields”.  Sports Illustrated called the Atlanta telephone number on file at the Alabama “PEDS pharmacy” for Evan Fields and Evander Holyfield answered the phone.  In addition, the PEDs ordered were listed in the docs that Evan Fields ordered.  Holyfield initially said that he was buying meds from the Alabama “PEDS pharmacy” for his father who had a heart condition.  When Holyfield was confronted with the reality that none of the meds on his order list were for any cardiac condition, he finally admitted that the orders were his.  He confessed to being treated for hypogonadism.  Asked why, when he lives in Atlanta, if he were being treated for a legitimate condition did he order PEDS from a known steroid clinic in Alabama rather than in Atlanta, he shut up on orders from his attorney.  Be a dumb ass Pollyanna at your own risk!  Just don’t come ‘round here with your stupid McCarthy crap—it won’t fly around folks with more than two brain cells.

  14. The Thresher 09:11am, 08/27/2011

    How can a guy who has 43 kids be on PED’s. Cialis—perhaps. PED’s, naw.

  15. The Thresher 09:07am, 08/27/2011

    OK, I know that, but how can a guy who has 39 kids be on steroids. Cialis. maybe. Steroids, hmmm.

  16. The Thresher 09:05am, 08/27/2011

    Bob, it’s boxing at it’s very worse, that’s what’s going on here. The stench of greed permeates.

  17. The Thresher 09:04am, 08/27/2011

    OY, do you always believe everything you read in Sports Illustrated? I mean, didn’t Pat Putnan of Korean War “fame” write for them?

  18. The Thresher 09:02am, 08/27/2011

    Methinks he (OY) doth protest too much. Man you are so easy to turn loose, it makes me LMFAO!!

  19. "Old Yank" Schneider 08:27am, 08/27/2011

    The Thresher—And you are worse than Pollyanna.  And that I CAN prove!  Actually there is no need to; it’s self evident!

  20. "Old Yank" Schneider 08:23am, 08/27/2011

    The Thresher—Sports Illustrated already proved it.  Apparently you’ve never read about Evan Fields.  Stay uninformed at your own risk!

  21. Bob 07:59am, 08/27/2011

    How is this fight for the WBA title? Didn’t Wladimir Klitschko just win that title from David Haye? Is Klitschko super champion or has he been stripped for some reason? This is ridiculous. What is going on here?

  22. Robert Ecksel 06:52am, 08/27/2011

    The Thresher—I don’t want to be Roy Cohn to Old Yank’s Joe McCarthy, but talk about Holyfield and steroids has circulated for decades. He’s not the first to say it. Proving a positive is hard enough. Proving a negative is even harder.

  23. The Thresher 04:42am, 08/27/2011

    Prove it!! You are worse than Joe McCarthy.

  24. "Old Yank" Schneider 04:29am, 08/27/2011

    Steroids made him a champ.  I gotta wonder what he’s takin’ to keep going.

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