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Jack, all I can do is repeat what my expert told me. Martin stated that when you step in and know you will be hit this time - your muscles automatically tighten up in anticipation of the punch landing. As an expert witness I have to take his word for it. It is an involuntary response that happens in a split second. Best I can do Jack. I have already asked Martin to read your comments and write an answer. Best I can do buddy.
Norman, I’m like a dog chewing a bone here!! I don’t disagree with any of the defensive techniques used to avoid getting hit square with a punch, I am very familiar with them 1st hand. What I disagree with is being rigid when getting hit with a punch. Crash technology and the fact that when you brace for impact, injury is more likely, support what I am saying versus being rigid. That is the only point I disagree with you and your expert, that’s it. I love this website, best boxing website on the net!!!!
Jack: First of all the pictures used at the top of the story are always picked by our editor Robert. I do not pick them. The picture used does make it seem like you want to make your face the bulls eye. The would not have been my pick for a photo. I probably would have used a pic of Sir Isaac Newton!
Second the concept of rigidity transferring down the tensed muscles to dissipate into the rest of the body was a direct quote from Martin, a fighter with 3 black belts and a degree in mechanical engineering. A hard combination for me to argue with.
Look, I understand what you are saying and I respect it. But if you had been in the gym with me that day you might have changed your mind. All of the time Martin stepped in on my punch he deflected it easily. Taking a punch to the head when stepping in is always a last resort. If you are going to be hit anyway, i.e. the deflection didn’t work, you might as well lower your head, step in with tensed muscles and catch it on you forehead to lessen the force of the punch.
I knew this story would get people hot and it did. 3000 reads in 2 days! I think that may be a record. You can agree with the story or not. We both love boxing and a good argument, win or lose is sheer enjoyment to me.
Keep reading the stories and keep writing in- love a good discussion!
Norman, I still can not accept any type of “rigidity” being involved, in order to lessen the impact of a punch. Crash technology is based on “Crumble Zones”, not being rigid. If 2 people are involved in an impact, the 1st person sees it coming and braces for the impact. The 2nd person is asleep or drunk and doesn’t see it coming, which person “normally” receives the more serious injuries? IMO, stepping into a punch using any technique that includes tension or rigidity is not the answer to minimizing the impact.
Norman, I can tell you exactly where the confusion lies here. You show a picture of a fighter getting smashed square in the face by a punch, as if he walked straight into it, ( hence the stepping into a punch ). If the title was: techniques of stepping into a punch ( in order to avoid the full impact ) then there would not be as many experienced guys, whether with boxing and or martial arts backgrounds interpreting the article the way we did. I know there are many techniques of stepping into a punch in order to avoid the full impact, other than face first but the article is talking about impact in relationship to face first, I think? I would like to know your opinion about 2 people involved in an impact. The first person sees it coming and braces for impact. The 2nd person is either asleep or drunk and has no clue. Which person “normally” receives the more serious injuries? The answer to that question, may answer whether or not stepping into a punch ( minus the techniques to lessen the impact ) is the best option regarding the impact of a punch. I think this may have been a trick question!!!! Only kidding. I still stand by my car analogy regarding impact.
I have read all your comments and you make some valid points. But you miss the main point. If you cannot avoid the punch, or step in and deflect it. If you cannot roll with the punch, then step into the punch. Again, you reduce the force on impact and the tensing of your muscles dissipates the force on landing throughout the body. Just as a car body spreads out the impact in an accident to minimize damage to the passengers.
Stepping into a punch should only be used when avoidance, deflection, rolling is not possible. But there is a place for it in certain circumstances. I think the physics of it explains how it works.
Any boxer knows that avoiding a punch, slipping a punch, blocking or parrying a punch, is better than getting hit with a punch. And boxers versus martial artists…..boxers always punch off-axis, and even off balance….that is typical of boxers. Martial artists punch from a balanced stance.
Boxers hit the hardest. If you are in a boxing match with a skilled boxer and you step into the punch, you are in danger of getting knocked out. A good boxer has such hand speed that interrupting the punch early will not necessarily save you.
The truth in your article is that closing range can take power out of a pure boxer’s punch, but close-fighters can still deliver power in tight range. Plus, adding your own velocity to the punch will increase the overall velocity. I think the fellow with the car analogy has the right idea.
Koolz, I understand exactly what you are saying and would like to relate a quick story to you regarding Qi. My ex father-in-law, who was a very experienced in Kung Fu and weapons, was good friends with Y. C. Wong in San Francisco, knew Bruce back when he was in Oakland, did a little experiment with me, regarding Qi. He had me get him in a bear hug from behind and squeeze him as tight as I could. He was able to impact a blow to my chest that hurt me and I immediately released him. Made me a believer!!!
Why do you have no options in defense?
Step into a punch? Use your body energy and mass to negate the energy of the punch ? ok Fine I see that.
and it’s BS there are three moves that require next no motion or energy to stop someones attack. and there are moves for offense as part of the defense. (collapsing the attack over someones arm)
and no the power comes from you inner energy and mind. You don’t punch your mind punches your body follows. It’s starts from your middle, your center (earth), you ground yourself with the energies of the earth.
Bruce Lee could knock someone back 10 feet from an inch away.
if someone is going to attack you stop them at the knee with your leg then they can’t even reach you.
Once again your mind is everything your body just a vessel of those energies.
The best solution to the issue is, to improve your boxing skills so you can either slip, duck under, parry or block your opponents punches with something other than your head. Make sense? Stepping into a punch doesn’t make sense IMO.
Norman, I will try to uncomplicated your article’s premise, whether it is better to step into a punch or not, with a simple analogy of 3 different scenarios. Scenario 1- You are in a car traveling 60mph, hit head-on by another car traveling 60 mph. Scenario 2-You are in a car sitting still, hit head-on by a car traveling 60 mph. Scenario 3-You are in a car traveling 30 mph in reverse, hit head-on by a car traveling 60 mph in the same direction as your car is traveling. Any guesses as to which scenario creates the greatest impact? I can tell you what car I would rather be in!!!! Good article though.