Ugly: Klitschko vs. Povetkin

By Adam Berlin on October 5, 2013
Ugly: Klitschko vs. Povetkin
Luis Pabon should be forced to stand with a 250-pound weight on his neck for 36 minutes.

Does Wladimir Klitschko ever give fans a spark of the violent catharsis we crave when we watch a professional fight? No…

Wladimir Klitschko had his hand raised tonight for the nineteenth time in a row since his loss to Lamon Brewster in 2004. How sad. 

Yes, Klitschko is dominant. Yes, he’s a physical specimen. Yes, he always comes in in shape, no small accomplishment for a heavyweight. But is he exciting? Does he take chances? Does he ever give fans a spark of the violent catharsis we crave when we watch a professional fight? No. History will be kind to Wladimir Klitschko. With time, the jagged edges of imperfection are glossed over. But right now, a few minutes after the completion of his fight against Alexander Povetkin, we have to be honest about what we saw—a less-than-impressive display of boxing.

Writers will recount the fight round by round. But it’s not necessary. One round represented every round, give or take some less-than-dramatic knockdowns. Povetkin, to his credit, pushed forward even when exhausted, even when swollen, even when disgruntled by the much bigger man. And Klitschko backed up and landed his pole-axe jab, his trademark punch, forged on an 81-inch reach. But tonight Klitschko did more than legally throw his jab, which sometimes morphed into a hook, which sometimes was followed by a careful right hand. He pulled Povetkin in with his long arms, then leaned on Povetkin’s neck, pressing his weight into the smaller man, and Klitschko did this over and over, one long lean, because referee Luis Pabon allowed the champion to break the rules. A win is a win. And fighters should do anything in their powers to win. But the ugliness of this tactic tainted tonight’s fight. Sometimes Klitschko looks the surgeon with his knife-like precision. Against Povetkin he looked the part of a sloppy doctor, patching things together with frayed bandages.

Luis Pabon should be forced to stand with a 250-pound weight on his neck for thirty-six minutes. Maybe then he’ll understand the importance of actually doing his job. Pabon is notorious for killing the rhythm of fights with incessant breaks. Tonight, as if intimidated by the heavyweight champion, he allowed Wladimir Klitschko to determine the pace of the fight—it was jab, hold, lean from the first to final bell. 

Povetkin is not guilt-free here. Had skilled men been in Povetkin’s corner, he might have been instructed to employ dirty tactics of his own to counter his opponent’s dirt. From what I heard in translation, Povetkin’s corner was doing little more than cheering on their charge. Imagine if Teddy Atlas, Povetkin’s former trainer, had been in the corner tonight. The final result might not have been different, but Atlas would not have stood idly by as the referee imprinted his mark on a fight, an unconscionable sin for any third man in the ring. Atlas would have confronted Pabon; he would have provided the counter-argument to Klitschko’s excuse that Povetkin was leaning in. (When Povetkin complained to Pabon about Klitschko’s tactics, Klitschko pleaded his case and the referee listened—talk about a biased referee.) And Atlas would have instructed Povetkin to work Klitschko inside while being held. Klitschko’s kidneys were wide open targets during those tainted clinches and some eye-for-eye justice would have evened the injustice perpetrated by the bigger man. 

More important, had Atlas been in his corner, Povetkin would have been forced to stick to his game plan. I visited the gym several times when Atlas was training Povetkin for some of his earlier fights, and while Teddy wasn’t preparing Sasha for Klitschko, well, he really was. Over and over, Teddy worked on Sasha’s inside game, teaching him how to get in the pocket, think in the pocket, deliver in the pocket and get out of the pocket. In Round 1 I saw Teddy’s lessons come to life, his words of wisdom in the geography Povetkin carved. In that round, Povetkin looked like a match for the bigger man. But all that weight, all that leaning, put a figurative dent in Povetkin’s back if not a literal one. As the great saying goes, Fatigue makes cowards of us all. Tonight, fatigue didn’t make a coward of Alexander Povetkin, but fatigue did tire Povetkin’s mind and without a strong mind it’s impossible to get in the pocket where possibility exists but danger lurks. Teddy Atlas would have inspired Sasha to stay focused. He would have kept Sasha’s mind alert. They had that kind of relationship when they worked together. And then Sasha strayed and the relationship ended.

Klitschko would probably still have won the fight. But it would have been a contest. It would have contained the competitive back-and-forth that makes a fight worth watching. Instead we saw a sloppy fight. Heard a disgruntled crowd. Felt nothing.

Wladimir Klitschko remains heavyweight king. The heavyweight division remains uninspired and uninspiring.

Adam Berlin is the author of the novels Headlock (Algonquin Books) and Belmondo Style (St. Martin’s Press). His novel The Number of Missing (Spuyten Duyvil) about post 9/11 NYC comes out in November, and his boxing novel Both Members of The Club (Texas Review Press), winner of the Clay Reynolds Novella Prize, also comes out in November.

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  1. Ted 12:09pm, 10/08/2013

    tuxtucis , I have said nothing about all time ratings. I just can’t stand the Klit hate that transpires too frequently on these threads. I happen to be on the other side of that equation.


    I am one who can accept and embrace change and that’s what the klits have accomplished in boxing.

  2. tuxtucis 11:26pm, 10/07/2013

    Anyway it depends on criteria you use for all time ranking: with a who-beat-who system Vitali Klitschko rise many positions respect a career accomplishments system, the opposite for Joe Louis…

  3. tuxtucis 11:22pm, 10/07/2013

    @ted: anyway Vitali lost two most important bouts of his career…if the one with Byrd was near the end, the one with a past prime Lewis was half road and we can’t be sure he would have won that fight…Vitali’s quality of opposition is awful: only decent fighters he won were Sanders and Peter: do you realize one of his best wins was against Adamek a grown up unexceptional light heavy? Nobody praise Alì for his wins against Foster, a far greater light heavy than Adamek…Ali after the Thrilla in Manila was totally shot: he won only with some of the worst fighters who ever fought for the heavy crown (Dunn, Evangelista, Coopman) and had gift decisions against Young, Shavers and Norton.

  4. Ted 06:45pm, 10/07/2013

    Ali was whipped by 197-pound Leon Spinks (6 wins) when he was younger than Wladimir

  5. George Thomas Clark 06:41pm, 10/07/2013

    Some people now criticize Wladimir for a lack of aggression the way many - even his sometime-trainer Emanuel Steward - ripped Lennox Lewis for not risking his head in order to punish his opponents more.  Ironically, Lennox and Wladimir will likely be healthy a long time - if the latter doesn’t stay too long - and both are among the best ever.

  6. Ted 05:02pm, 10/07/2013

    K’s are easily the most underrated heavies.

    Vitali Klitschko has 45 wins in 47 fights.. Never behind on points.. Never knocked down.. 42 years old and still Heavyweight Champion.. Lost only on severe cuts, and because of a shoulder injury—but ahead on points both times… Beat Juan Carlos Gomez, 44-1… Tomasz Adamek 44-1… Chris Arreola 28-0… Manuel Charr 21-0… Larry Donald 39-2… Herbie Hide 31-1… Timo Hoffman 22-0… Vaughn Bean 42-2… Kirk Johnson 34-1… Corrie Sanders 39-2…Sam Peter 30-1… and Albert Sosnowski 45-2…

    Wladimir Klitschko has 61 wins in 64 fights.. Only behind on points only once to Corrie Sanders.. Beat Lamon Brewster easily in rematch.. Beat David Haye, Alexander Povetkin, Sam Peter, Eddie Chambers, Ruslan Chagaev, Lamon Brewster, and Hasim Rahman.

  7. tuxtucis 02:19pm, 10/07/2013

    @Eric: Sure size is an attribute. About Holmes, I think now he’s a bit overrated…I don’t see him at all in top 5, not to say top 3, all time heavies…Really I don’t think the Klitschkos very distant from him, although he was more talented than the K brothers…

  8. Eric 12:43pm, 10/07/2013

    For a large heavyweight to lean on a smaller heavyweight and tire him out is no different than a someone with extraordinary hand or foot speed using that to their advantage etc. Size is an attribute, especially when there is no weight limit, that is why the heavyweights of the past would not do as well as some would think they would. If the best heavyweights were meant to be 6’-6’2” and weigh between 190-210lbs, then WHERE ARE THEY TODAY. They wouldn’t be fighting in the cruiserweight division, they would be fighting the big boys and still keep their weight in the 190-210lb range. There is no rule forbidding a fighter from having to fight above 210lbs to compete with the heavyweights, if you want to weigh 165lbs and take on a 240lb fighter, there is nothing stopping it from happening. It wasn’t too long ago that everyone said that fighters like Dempsey, Tunney, and Marciano were too small to compete with fighters like Holmes, Ali, or Foreman, but somehow it now changes when it is fighters like Ali or Holmes who appear small next to recent champions. It is always amazing how fighters start getting better the moment they retire. Larry Holmes was criticized almost as much as the Klit brothers, but suddenly he retires and he becomes one of the all time greats by beating up people like Lucien Rodriguez, David Bey, and Alfredo Evangelista. Perhaps 30-40 years from now, we will be hearing how some 7’ 300lb heavyweight couldn’t last 2 rounds with the Klits or Lennox Lewis.

  9. tuxtucis 11:38am, 10/07/2013

    @eric: Henry Cooper had a great left hook, not a shame for anyone to be floored by that punch…and anyway Clay (at thime not much heavier than Cooper) won that match…Louis had undeniably not a great chin…but at 22 he lost not to Puritty, but to Max Schmeling, who, though past prime, was an experienced and dangerous counter puncher… except when he was before (Schmeling) or after (Marciano) prime, Louis got up and won…The same for Holmes against Snipes and Shavers (the last one far more dangerous hitter than anyone Klitschko ever fought)...That’s why I see Klitschko between 15 to 20 in eventual heavy all time ranking…but not top 10…

  10. NYIrish 08:40am, 10/07/2013

    Klit is a big boring stiff. He is moving better. He used to move like Frankenstien sleep walking. Now he is a little looser. He is effective if not entertaining. I don’t know of anyone active today who could beat him. As far as all time greatness, remember his glass head.

  11. Vladislav 05:47am, 10/07/2013

    Lennox Lewis said that W. Klitschko vs. Povetkin was rather a wrestling. Well that is not fair from him. Lewis used the same tactics against Mike Tyson. It was also a boring match although there were probably other things that influenced it.

  12. Eric 01:50am, 10/07/2013

    @tux
    Ali was floored by a 190lb Henry Cooper and was saved by a quick thinking Angelo Dundee in the corner from a possible knockout in the next round. Joe Louis’s chin was just as suspect as Wlad’s, Louis visited the canvas several times during his career. Holmes almost lost to one Renaldo Snipes, who knocked Larry on his large arse in one of Holmes’s title defences against another lame opponent.

  13. GlennR 01:16am, 10/07/2013

    Yep, with you there tuxtucis.
    Just read Dougies Monday Mailbag and id like to share this;

    “Over the years, I’ve pissed off Klitschko fans and supporters of “Modern Boxing,” stubborn young fans who believe that today’s best are superior to the Golden Age greats, by suggesting that smaller heavyweight champs, such as Joe Louis and Joe Frazier, would have beat the K-Bros.

    But the fact that Klitschko has to resort to wrestling and roughhouse tactics to beat a guy like Povetkin is the reason I believe what I believe.”

    My point exactly in one of my earlier posts, if he is so good why does he have to resort to these tactics, as i said, Louis would stop Povetkin inside 6 IMO, why couldnt WK?

    Doug goes on to say this;

    “And I agree that, despite his vast experience and considerable athleticism and intelligence, he doesn’t have the jab, the power-hand accuracy or the proper lateral movement to keep his better opponents at bay. So, he’s forced to clinch and lean on them when they get close because he doesn’t have much of an inside game.”

    Exactly, imagine WK v a prime Riddick Bowe?
    Almost as big, fast powerful outside game AND an excellent inside game.
    He’d do WK in 8
    Imagine WK against a prime Holyfield?
    He wouldnt know what to do. EH would get inside and tear him apart.

    Id go on, but i think you get my drift

  14. tuxtucis 01:02am, 10/07/2013

    Ok…37 Wlad would have for sure not lost to Spinks…probably he would have not been rocked by smaller Marciano…I’m not sure he would have not been rocked by Tyson at his best…And okay, he was only 22 when he was stopped by Puritty…But someone sees Alì, Louis or Holmes stopped by the likes of Sanders and Brewster, floored three times by Sam Peter between the ages of 26 and 29?...please make me laugh…

  15. Goliafq3 12:51am, 10/07/2013

    It is really interesting when WK did not knock out his opponent everybody became screaming that the fight was boring and the opponent was good.
    COME ON! Did you see the score???
    WK killed Povetkin only with ONE left hand and took 17M. Povetkin and WK located in the different division. It was just a marketing fight.
    Stop crying. Box it is not a streetfight, it is sport, WK and his brother is a HIGH masters in it, so just watch and wait when they will go.

  16. Irish Frankie Crawford Beat Saijo aka Gimpel 08:10pm, 10/06/2013

    Which reminds me….132 amateur bouts and 26 Pro bouts and never knocked down until Saturday.

  17. Irish Frankie Crawford Beat Saijo aka Gimpel 08:01pm, 10/06/2013

    I’m not done yet….Povetkin was in the best shape of his life, highly motivated, determined (more like desperate), fighting in front of his home crowd, and stuck religiously to his game plan of getting inside and winging shots….yet if Wlad had landed a flush hook instead of that half hook in the second it would have been done and done!

  18. Irish Frankie Crawford Beat Saijo aka Gimpel 07:44pm, 10/06/2013

    FranklinDallas and Eric-Not to worry…. those three Hebrew Boys weren’t even singed by that fiery furnace.

  19. Irish Frankie Crawford Beat Saijo aka Gimpel 07:27pm, 10/06/2013

    If Wlad is so piss poor I say it’s time to dial up Deontay so he can put Wlad out of his misery (and so many others into the bargain) and we can all finally stop the wet dreaming about an American Heavyweight Champion of the World! Don’t even try to say that Wilder isn’t ready….he’s more than ready…in fact he’s ripe. While we’re at it let’s dial up Adonis/Kovalev and Golovkin/Quillin….I say let’s get this shit settled and soon!

  20. Irish Frankie Crawford Beat Saijo aka Gimpel 06:56pm, 10/06/2013

    Let me count the ways….2003 World Amateur Champ….2004 Olympic Gold Medalist (walkover or not it’s still gold)...retired with 125-7 amateur record( all loses avenged) won WBA title and defended successfully 4 times….KO’d Byrd…out boxed Chagaev and Chambers….not exactly chopped liver. If Wlad had just taken a deep breath when he hurt Povetkin and closed the show in the seventh I submit that the caterwauling would be tempered just a tad….probably not!

  21. Irish Frankie Crawford Beat Saijo aka Gimpel 06:19pm, 10/06/2013

    FranklinDallas and Eric-One word for the pair of you…..BLASPHEMY!....I say…..BLASPHEMY! How dare you not bow down to the Idols of Old! HOW DARE YOU! Mark this well…you risk the fate of Mishach, Shadrach and Abednago for those sacriligeous utterances…..that either KBros would kick Ali’s ass right up onto his shoulders!

  22. GlennR 06:09pm, 10/06/2013

    Sigh, people cant make a comment about the fight without being branded an “anti Klitschko nazi”

    I tip my hat to both the brothers for ruling the roost for so long, regardless of the perceived quality of the opponents. Its not their fault which era they were born into.

    Having said that, the amount of time WK lunged over the top of POV to tie him up and lean on him just wasnt on.

    Heres a tip, Louis knocks POV out inside of 6 in my book, why couldnt/wouldnt WK?

  23. Daniel Craig 05:49pm, 10/06/2013

    Now tell me, please! Every one of you “wise” guys! What makes you think that Vladimir should get in to risk and look like mad monkey of smth JUST TO ENTERTAIN YOU???? HE DESERVES AN ABSOLUTE FREEDOM IN CHOOSING A STRATERY FOR A FIGHT! HE KNOWS HIS WAY AND POINT OF DESTINATION!
    HE IS NOT JUST A ROCK OF MUSCLES BUT HAS ENOUGH BRAINS FOR KEEPIN HIS HEAD IN SECURE! THAT’S WHY YOU SEE THE SHOW YOU DON’T LIKE! yOU WANT BLOOD, SUFFERING, KNOCKOUT! BUT YOU DON’T WANT TO SEE A SPORTMAN WHO WINS WITH RESPECT TO AN OPPONENT , WITH NO CHEETING AND DIRTY WORDS. A GOOD LOOKING CHAMP LOOKS MUCH BETTER THEN JUST A BIG PIECE OF MEAT IN BOXING TROUSERS AND MUCH BETTER THEN MOST OF YOU WILL EVER BECOME! SO, LIVE WITH IT!

  24. Eric 03:13pm, 10/06/2013

    Look at the famed “Greatest’s” list of opponents which are noteworthy but could they have defeated either Klit or Lennox Lewis. A past his prime Sonny Liston, not to mention that both bouts had dubious, questionable endings. Liston was probably in his prime before a couple of years before he even won the title from Patterson in ‘62, so by ‘64, this wasn’t a prime Liston. Patterson vs. Wlad or Vitali? Please. Cooper, Chuvalo, Terrell, a totally washed up Cleveland Williams, seriously? Quarry, too small, too prone to cuts, skillful, lots of heart, and erratic, sorry Quarry is just too small, as is Bonavena, as is Ali’s main nemesis Smokin’ Joe. Norton, no way. Foreman would have a shot at nailing either one of the Klits and/or Lewis, and big George, while he weighed only about 220-225lbs in his prime was prodigiously strong and powerful, every bit as these modern day, even larger super heavies. George has a shot. The list of Ali’s opponents after the Foreman fight wasn’t bad but they weren’t all time greats either. Sure fighters like Ron Lyle, Joe Bugner, Jimmy Young, and Earnie Shavers were good, but I don’t see any of those fighters having a chance against Vitali, Wlad, or Lennox. So, as far as Ali’s list of opponents go, the only one I see having a chance at victory would be Foreman. I could envision a prime Liston beating anyone of the Klits or Lewis but I wouldn’t guarantee it, and I would favor the big boys over Sonny.

  25. Eric 02:48pm, 10/06/2013

    @Jim,

    I will admit Ali’s list of QUALITY opponents is probably what keeps him in the top 2 listings of all time heavyweight rankings, however, the opponents of Louis and Holmes are less than fantastic. Let’s first look at Louis, before the title he made his name feasting on washed up champs like the hard punching but undisciplined and unskilled Max Baer, the marginally talented at best Primo Carnera, a totally washed up Jack Sharkey, and he won the title from a man with over 20 something losses named Jim Braddock. BTW, I believe Braddock actually floored Louis if I’m not mistaken. Joe was dominated and destroyed by Max Schmeling in their first fight, and would struggle against fighters named Godoy, Farr, Galento, and little 170lb Billy Conn. Louis actually lost his first fight to Walcott and was losing in the rematch until he scored a knockout in the 11th round. Walcott put Louis on the deck a total of four times in two fights. Now, Larry Holmes. While people like to say that the Klits ruled in a time of talentless “bums,” take a gander at Holmes’s list of opposition or the fighters who were fighting while he ruled the heavyweights. That time and period was so bad that people like Greg Page, Tony Tubbs, Gerrie Coetzee, Mike Weaver, and others would lay claim to a portion of the heavyweight title. Some of the list of Holmes’s opponents for his title included fighters like Ossie Ocasio, Alfredo Evangelista, Lucien Rodriguez, Leroy Jones, David Bey, Scott Frank, Marvis Frazier, Scott Ledoux, Tex Cobb, Leon Spinks, etc. Now can you imagine what either Vitali or Wlad would do to any of those fighters, short of manslaughter? Sorry but the Klits would’ve DOMINATED in the Louis era, in the Holmes era, and even in the Ali era. Would they go undefeated in any of those eras? There is a possibility and even if they would be defeated, I could envision them holding the title for a period of time, yes, even in the so-called golden era of heavyweight boxing, the seventies.

  26. Jim Crue 02:19pm, 10/06/2013

    Eric
    The fighters you mention had HARD fights with tough guys when boxing was a major sport.

  27. Eric 02:14pm, 10/06/2013

    How good was Ali at 37? He was retired and fighting exhibitions against football players like Lyle Alzado. At 36, Ali lost to the neophyte Leon Spinks, he of 8 professional fights, and later that same year would be taken the distance by a very mediocre 201lb Spinks. How good was Joe Louis at 37? He was being knocked out of the ring by a 184lb piece of granite named Rocky Marciano. How good was Holmes at 37? He was retired after losing two decisions to a former light heavyweight champion named Michael Spinks. Holmes was biding his time until at the age of 38 he was bounced around the ring by a prime Mike Tyson. At 37, Wlad should retire before he faces the same fate as the other past heavyweight kings. Boxers don’t get better with age, not even George Foreman or Archie Moore.

  28. Koolz 09:05am, 10/06/2013

    I didn’t really find this that ugly of a fight the grabbing and holding was happening from both fighters.  I also was very impressed by Wladimir’s foot work the guy is huge and he is dancing around a small right away from Povetkin’s attempts to hit him at close range.

    I enjoyed the fight I don’t see any Heavyweights beating Wladimir.

  29. Irish Frankie Crawford Beat Saijo aka Gimpel 08:48am, 10/06/2013

    UGLY?.....UGLY?.....UGLY?.....I’ll tell you what’s UGLY! When Klimov’s absolute cretin of a trainer calls him a COWARD in the corner and the broadcast crew at ringside think it’s cute! They weren’t the ones who had to deal with the latest quick twitch bitch wannabe version of Mayweather…..now were they?

  30. Vic 07:37am, 10/06/2013

    I agree 100% with this:

    “In Round 1 I saw Teddy’s lessons come to life, his words of wisdom in the geography Povetkin carved. In that round, Povetkin looked like a match for the bigger man. But all that weight, all that leaning, put a figurative dent in Povetkin’s back if not a literal one. As the great saying goes, Fatigue makes cowards of us all. Tonight, fatigue didn’t make a coward of Alexander Povetkin, but fatigue did tire Povetkin’s mind and without a strong mind it’s impossible to get in the pocket where possibility exists but danger lurks.”

  31. Kurt 05:06am, 10/06/2013

    Wladimir Klitschko   is a top ten alltime great heavyweight.  6th or 7th rated .  All fighters have an off night occasionally. It takes two to fight. Povetkin could have done more. If Wlad were to fight in Las Vegas I would fly out there and pay to see him perform.

  32. bk don 05:01am, 10/06/2013

    Good piece as always by Berlin. I completely agree that Atlas would’ve, to put it nicely, complained to the ref about Klit’s tactics. Any trainer worth his weight wouldn’t have allowed his fighter to get repeatedly fouled as often as Alexander was. I even somewhat concur w/Sonny though b/c Teddy gets a little too much credit for the work he does or at least the work people believe he does. There is a reason that Teddy is a fulltime commentator not a trainer and I don’t buy that bs that it’s b/c fighters aren’t willing to be dedicated. Speaking of trainers though, does anyone fault the legendary Manny Steward for teaching and helping Klit create this god awful style of his? It was done to keep his brittle chin from getting touched and it certainly succeeds there but at what cost? It certainly removes any excitement or hint of it from his fights. Just something I wondered about.

  33. Marat_Lyalin 03:06am, 10/06/2013

    To Chris G   Grat Mohammed Ali also like with his long left hand on neck and bend down her. After fight with Forman   referee  
    constantly  
    made comments   to him ...    and Ali .//
      and   to Ted comarison with Indianopolis -  funny ,,  but it is nit first fight og Klitchko with same manner and referee dont   affect on him ???

  34. Darrell 02:59am, 10/06/2013

    What a whining article.

    OK, it was as ugly a fight as we’re ever going to see but Klitschko was certainly not wholly to blame for the clinching.  Povetkin didn’t help himself AT ALL by trying to bob underneath the jab & come up with punches.  He just put himself straight into the rib cage of Wlad and the champ took advantage of it by leaning on him.  Of course, Wlad grabbed Povetkin on several occasions when Povetkin was about to wind up when Wlad was off balance after following through with right hands mainly.  I have no problem with it….

    Ali did this sort of thing as a matter of course back in the mid 70’s.  Some very short memories.

    I must say, the referee closed his eyes a bit in round 7 (?) with a couple of those knockdowns.  Certainly the 1st & 3rd were not KD’s though I believe the 2nd was, especially as Povetkin did a desperate waist grab to not fall over.

    That Wlad has some wicked power off both wings, & that’s got to be the hardest jab I’ve ever seen.

  35. Clarence George 02:43am, 10/06/2013

    And “Speed Racer,” Glenn.

    A word on Fury’s cynicism and hypocrisy:  We saw what he did to Cunningham, and he’s therefore hardly in a position to express outrage at Klitschko draping himself over Povetkin like a widow’s shawl.  Which is not to imply that it wasn’t outrageous; it certainly was.

    “Ali had precisely zero concept of defence.  A 37 year old Ali would have lost, by massacre, to Wlad.”  The latter is easy to dismiss, as a fantasy bout always assumes prime vs. prime.  The former observation is more interesting.  Jethro’s contention may be occasionally true of Ali in some of his knee-jerk responses and tactical maneuvering, but not as a strategist, not as a ring general.

  36. Jethro's Flute 02:12am, 10/06/2013

    “Does anyone really think he would not have been pounded by the likes of overrated Marciano, Dempsey, maybe Frazier and even Tyson and forget about Ali.”

    Marciano and Dempsey would be cruiserweights today. Joe Frazier would not be allowed to compete as he was blind in one eye.

    Tyson always struggled against really tall opponents and Ali had precisely zero concept of defence. A 37 year old Ali would have lost, by massacre, to Wlad.

  37. GlennR 09:41pm, 10/05/2013

    Watched rounds 3, 4 and seven and ill assume the other rounds were much the same.

    Holding, pushing down, throwing…... i know he isnt the first to do it ,but, id like to see the rules adhered to when it is for the HW championship

  38. FrankinDallas 08:42pm, 10/05/2013

    Around the 8th I heard Manny Stewart shout at Wlad “go out there and knock this mo-fo OUT!

  39. GlennR 08:02pm, 10/05/2013

    Was fond of Astro Boy as well…....... anyone have a link where i can watch the fight?

    Sounds like it was awful, but i wouldn’t mind watching a round or two so i can agree with Clarence

  40. Clarence George 08:00pm, 10/05/2013

    Not necessarily my favorite, Glenn, but certainly one of them.

    “Bigger than big…”

  41. GlennR 07:43pm, 10/05/2013

    Gigantor Clarence!
    My favourite cartoon as a child

  42. Rudi.Ru 07:24pm, 10/05/2013

    Very good article.

  43. Magoon 07:00pm, 10/05/2013

    Three articles on Klitschko - Povetkin?

  44. Clarence George 06:50pm, 10/05/2013

    Despite yet another godawful fight courtesy of this fugitive from a robot factory, there’ll still be some who’ll laud as one of the great heavyweights, and with a truly tiresome desperation, this Ivan Drago wannabe.

    He trails Joe Louis as the longest-reigning heavyweight champ, does he?  So what?  Louis epitomized boxing genius.  Does Klitschko?  The ultimate in rhetorical questions.  He has a huge fan base in Germany, has he?  Ooh!  Oh, if only I, too, could be permitted to join my Teutonic brethren in worshipping at the shrine of boxing’s answer to Gigantor.

    OK, I’m in a bad mood—just came back from seeing “Betrayal,” which was absolute shit—but my mood has nothing to do with my assessment of Dr. ZzzQuil.

  45. Pete The Sneak 06:08pm, 10/05/2013

    Man this was brutal…Tyson Fury hit it on the head. What a shitty heavyweight fight. Heck, this made Bernard Hopkins look like Arturo Gatti action wise…WK was ready to go in the 5th Round, if only Povetkin would have connected with anything decent…All time great? I don’t think so… Luis Pabon should not only be allowed to ref another fight, he should not even be allowed to enter any boxing venue. Ever!...Peace.

  46. Ted 05:48pm, 10/05/2013

    sonny bales, ah, I see you have a good read on Teddy

  47. Ted 05:46pm, 10/05/2013

    Teddy Atlas has been anti Klit brothers for as long as I can recall. I get that. I also get that Wlad was God awful today. But one fight does not make a career. At the end of the day, he still won.

    Have I altered my opinion about Wlad? Yes,  I have.

    Have I altered my opinion about Teddy? No, I have not. Teddy reminds me of predicting that the stock market will go into BEAR mode. Sooner or later it will happen; it always does, But that’s not the time to say “I told you so.”

    Nevertheless, thanks for the excellent write up and now onto Cotto….

  48. Tex Hassler 05:25pm, 10/05/2013

    When Povetkin departed from Teddy Atlas his dream of becoming heavyweigh champion also departed. Klitschko won without getting hurt and that is important in order for him to extend his career. He is getting older and the end may come soon. He would be better off to retire now.

  49. Jim Crue 04:40pm, 10/05/2013

    Well,
    this fight should clear the heads of the the Klitschko fans who call him an all-time great. He was exhausted after the 6th round. Those big weightlifter muscles mean little in the ring. Does anyone really think he would not have been pounded by the likes of overrated Marciano, Dempsey, maybe Frazier and even Tyson and forget about Ali. He boxes his ears off. What a pitiful performance. This is why young folks are going to the street fighting MMA crap. Like Roy Jones, Klit knows he has NO chin.
    The ref did a poor job. I agree Teddy Atlas is all about himself and his “honesty” but a better corner would have helped Povetkin. Think what you may of Teddy he knows boxing and how to TEACH a fighter.
    I’m disgusted.

  50. sonny bales 04:21pm, 10/05/2013

    Fight was a drag, but almost all WK fights are unless he gets his face dragged along the canvas like against Corrie Sanders. also a drag is the constant braindead lionization of teddy atlas in this otherwise okay piece. teddy would have done this, teddy would have done that…no he wouldn’t because teddy never trains any fighters. he hardly ever has and when he does it never works out because teddy is always the star of show not the fighter. teddy is a dreary narcissist and nothing he would have said would have improved povetkin’s performance.

  51. Chris G 03:37pm, 10/05/2013

    That was a truly awful spectacle, and the credit for that rests solely with Wladimir Klitschko and the referee.  Never again will I tolerate listening to someone tell me Klitschko should be considered one of the great heavyweights. He style is predicated on wrestling opponents into submission. He relies on compliant referees to allow him to consistently break the rules (i.e., constantly hold). At the end of the day, he fights scared. He appears terrified of engaging in any sort of exchange and is fortunate he is operating in an era where the talent pool is as shallow as it’s ever been.  There were heavyweights in past eras (including the recent past) who would have had the ability and temerity to hit him back and he just has the look of a guy who will without a doubt fold like a cheap tent in the wind were he to come up against an opponent with the will and ability to take it to him.

  52. Ted 03:25pm, 10/05/2013

    And I am close to agreeing.

    “It’s stuff like this—not nationality or race—that keeps Wlad from being bigger in the States…Wlad could’ve walked right through Povetkin, but he always goes for the safest route…In this case, making Povetkin into a Manwich for 12 rounds and denying fans a fight…Don’t get me wrong, it’s brilliant strategy and supremely effective, but it’s not compelling TV for the average fan or casual observer…It’s like watching the Indianapolis 500 where a speed bump has been installed every 50 yards…” Paul Magno

  53. Ted 03:23pm, 10/05/2013

    Tyson Fury just tweeted this:


    @Tyson_Fury: I have just witnessed the shittiest heavyweight championship of the world fight in history!!! A pair of stiff idiots hugging each other!!!

     

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