When a Boxing Historian Struggled to Maintain His Interest

By Ted Sares on January 7, 2012
When a Boxing Historian Struggled to Maintain His Interest
There was a pattern and I didn’t like it. Thankfully, there was a Marquez-Katsidis fight.

That kind of special “leave it all in the ring” style is now the exception and certainly not the rule…

“There’s only one way you can lick [Tony] Zale—you gotta kill him.”—Rocky Graziano

”I’ll get you, you son of a bitch!”—Rocky Marciano

Boredom

Over a year ago (August 2010 to be exact) I hit a dry patch and had a hard time getting excited about the sport for which I have such a passion. It wasn’t writer’s block; it might have been because I was spending an inordinate amount of time on a book project in another genre. But it never had been a major problem before.

Listening to endless debates about performance-enhancing drugs (PEDS) and related testing, mindless back and forth exchanges about Pacquiao and Mayweather, issues associated with Margarito and loaded hand wraps, the dysfunctionalities of the Mayweathers, and whether James Toney had it in him to take the measure of Randy Couture flat out drained me. At that point and even more so today, I could care less if Manny and Junior ever get it on.

Watching the creative concept of the Super Six World Boxing Classic begin to fall apart because of injuries was remedied by having Prize Fighter tournaments in the UK. In the end, it was a winner but it had a long and arduous road to that end. But listening to unworthy guys call out the Klitschkos tested my patience. I understand the need for a big payday as much as the next guy, but seeing opponents line up like sacrificial lambs to take their inevitable beating from the Brothers has become almost farcical.

There was a pattern here and I didn’t like it. Thankfully, there was a Marquez-Katsidis fight. These two fought with an intensity reminiscent of warriors from a different time— warriors who defined fury. Guys like Diego Corrales, Gatti, Ward, Julian Letterlough, a prime Tyson, Nigel Benn, and before them, DeMarco and Basilio, and back even further, Zale and Graziano. That kind of special “leave it all in the ring” style is now the exception and certainly not the rule. Vasquez and Marquez showed it in their first three fights. Many Japanese fighters exhibit it at the lower weights, but when was the last time you witnessed it in a major heavyweight fight?

Now then, when I review my video footage of some of these older fights, I am astounded by the manner in which punches were thrown. The third Zale-Graziano fight should be witnessed by every serious fan for its sheer ferocity, not to mention one of the worse refereeing jobs in history. I wince every time I think of the ending.

This leads me back to my initial thought; namely, that I was having an atypical degree of difficulty getting excited about what I was witnessing on the boxing landscape. More PPV fights than ever before but with higher prices than ever before. Aside from the Klitschkos, the heavyweight division was quality-challenged.

Maybe I am too nostalgic and miss the old school stuff more than I should, but that’s never been a real issue with me. I have always taken great pains to avoid falling victim to generational or era prejudice and know full well that looking through the prism of nostalgia makes everything seem better. In this regard, I have always tried to be thoughtful and objective when making comparisons between the past and the present.

The Trigger for My Malaise: That Ninth Round

“When I go out there, I have no pity on my brother. I’m out there to win.”—Joe Frazier

Then I watched Tavoris Cloud get past an aging Glen Johnson (who rehydrated to a whopping 190 pounds) over 12 grueling rounds on August 7, 2010. In the ninth round of that fight, Cloud simply stopped fighting while Johnson threw 105 punches. And right there and then, my malaise set in. Men who fight for a living do not stop fighting when the outcome of a close championship fight is one the line. That ninth round troubled me, because back in the day, I never saw much of that. You left it in the ring; you did not take it back to the corner with you.

The Restoration of My Passion

“I just wanted Floyd to know that the WBC will always stay strongly in his corner.” –Jose Sulaiman

Since then, I have recovered my passion as I knew I would and happily have moved on. Tavoris Cloud (23-0) has become a fan-friendly champion with a bright future and a compelling personal story. Heck, after the strange things that occurred during 2011, how could anyone not enjoy boxing? The weirdness included Dawson vs. Hopkins, Pat Russell’s on again/off again behavior, Mayweather vs. Ortiz (with the added attraction of “Firm but Fair” Joe Cortez, “Vicious” Victor’s foot-in-mouth quotes, Russell Mora’s serial ineptness in Agbeko vs. Mares, Joe Cooper’s inexplicable point deduction in the last round of a championship fight with a “mystery man” in a hat at ringside, “Khanspiracy,’’ Adrien Broner’s bizarre hair combing before and after a fight, “Toe Gate,” “Eye Gate,” Lara vs. Williams and New Jersey’s boxing judges, Roy Jones ill-advised comeback, Hopkins doing pushups during a break in his fight against Pascal, Mayweather’s out-of-the ring troubles, Canelo’s alleged beat down of Solis, the dreadful neglect of selecting Myung-Woo Yuh in the IBHOF while inducting Michael Buffer, Glen Johnson’s whining after he lost every round to Bute, Toney’s vow to return after being slaughtered by Lebedev, Jose Sulaiman’s “sensitivity” to female abuse,  and God only knows what else.

For a nostalgic tour, visit the author’s site at www.tedsares.com.

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  1. Charlie N 08:53pm, 01/12/2012

    That’s right Ted. Thank you. I remember your post well. Thanks.

  2. The Pinoy Pikey 04:01pm, 01/10/2012

    just watched the RM and IV clip.  It’s going to be fun to see how the IBHOF handles the induction of these two little fellas: both 1st ballot HOF’ers and nothing less.  This is definitely arguable, but IMO, IV is a more qualified 1st timer HOF’er.  However, it doesn’t make a difference as long as they aren’t forgotton 5 years after they retire!!

  3. The Pinoy Pikey 03:31pm, 01/10/2012

    Ted, that stoppage was weird!

  4. The Pinoy Pikey 03:30pm, 01/10/2012

    Frank In Dallas, Julian Jackson KO’s—wheeeew!  That short left hook; that whooping right overhand/cross; and that right uppercutt to the body.  I remember that Herol Graham fight—that overhand right.

  5. The Thresher 04:49pm, 01/09/2012

    You want weird? Try this.

    http://www.womenboxing.com/NEWS2012/news010812stoppage.htm

     

  6. The Thresher 03:03pm, 01/09/2012

    Yeah, upon re-reading your post, Yank, you are right. That’s waht happens to Asians all the time.

  7. The Thresher 02:40pm, 01/09/2012

    Eyeball and Canelo beating up a midget Solis is as funny as it gets, but maybe we should call 2011 “The Year of the Referee.” Now that was funny.

  8. The Thresher 02:37pm, 01/09/2012

    I don’t think we are pronouning it dead just yet, but I’d go with Rios before Pirog any day of the week as evidence of that. That guy is an old school beast ala Jake LaMotta

  9. Don from Prov 08:51am, 01/09/2012

    Okay, eyeball removal IS funny, but… .

  10. David Matthew 08:42am, 01/09/2012

    Wildly intriguing piece…love how that cloud-johnson round triggered this imaginative work.  Respect.

  11. "Old Yank" Schneider 08:13am, 01/09/2012

    I understand how easy it is for the US boxing scene to hold and lose our interest. Fast-track entertainment seems to have more appeal to boxing wanna-bees than old school development; call it one of the perversions of an instant-gratification generation. Adding to the issue are generous entitlements that have dampened a desire to find a way out. Once upon a time the ingredients for exceptional talent development in boxing were a hard-scrabble poverty existence, a hungry youth, talented and devoted trainers, leagues (like PAL), and exciting Gloves program, a competitive Olympic trials program and ambition and initiative. This fertile ground for growing new talent has been poisoned with sloth and an entitlement mentality that allows instant gratification to be a part of a new socio-governmental religion. But before we pronounce boxing dead or resuscitated from a near-death experience, perhaps we should once again look to Eastern-Europe and see how much is going on since the Soviet Union has broken up and going pro is no longer illegal. I will tout one example to get things started as proof that boxing is far from simply surviving another near-death experience: Dmitry Pirog. In many ways language is the barrier that prevents us from seeing how vibrant the sport continues to be.

  12. the thresher 06:41am, 01/09/2012

    Charley, I have a photo of your dad in Cut and Shoot on my site.

  13. FrankinDallas 08:18pm, 01/08/2012

    Ted….you need to post up a couple of videos of Julian Jackson’s KO’s..like the vicious destruction of Terry Norris.

  14. Jim Crue 08:05pm, 01/08/2012

    in their first 2 fights both Rocky and Tony were at more than one time out on their feet and came back from the edge of defeat. In the first fight Rocky was beating the tar out of Tony and had him out on his feet until he connected with one of his famous right hand shots to Rocky’s belly and Rocky was counted out. In the second fight Tony was beating the tar out of Rocky and Rocky was out on his feet, both eyes were cut, one eye almost completely closed and he came back to KO Tony. In light of those two fights and the way boxing was at the time the referee in the 3rd fight was not in error. By todays standards MANY fights throughout history would have different endings.

  15. charlie n 07:42pm, 01/08/2012

    Recent telecast on “Friday Night Fights” here in States had son of Howard Davis (Dyah Davis) vs a guy from “Cut & Shoot, Texas” Gomez. Fight a real stinker. Best part of telecast-Teddy Atlas’s talk on former 50’s & 60’s Heavies contender from Cut & Shoot-Roy Harris,who fought them all incl.title shot vs Patterson. Wouldn’t mind seeing a piece on Cut & Shoots’ Roy Harris. Thanks Ted.
    Harris was big and came from money-his parents had large cattle ranch but the son could throw leather and was able to earn and afford a shot at Patterson at his asking price. Those were the days.
    Kudos to Atlas and crew for remembering the past on today’s telecasts.

  16. MRBILL-HARDCORE XXX 06:35pm, 01/08/2012

    I admit, I’m guilty of burning out with team Pacquiao and all their games of manipulation, etc…. I may be in the small percentage of fans here, but “Packy-Marquez 3” was not a classic or a robbery… It was just a good fight that was over-hyped and over-priced on PPV…. I also knew deep down that Tony M. was shot as all hell in 2011 and would lose his rematch to Cotto… Cotto is also slipping a bit, but still hanging in there for more money… WORD!

  17. MRBILL-HARDCORE XXX 06:26pm, 01/08/2012

    I was at my bro’s ranch over the weekend and I saw the film remakes of “The Mechanic” with Jason Statham and “Arthur” with Russ Brand…. Both were okay / decent remakes…. Still, neither film is better than the original with Bronson and Dudely Moore…. I saw Jason Statham in the remake of “Death Race” back around Christmas and I thought that effort sucked big time…

    As for boxing in 2011? It sucked pretty bad last year…. My top fight was “Cotto-Mayo” and “V.K.-Adamek.” But I gotta say I liked Hops’ two fights with Pascal, too….

  18. the thresher 05:21pm, 01/08/2012

    MRBILL, 10-4 good buddy

  19. the thresher 05:21pm, 01/08/2012

    Good point Sthomas. We are in overload and most of it is crap.

  20. sthomas 03:45pm, 01/08/2012

    Great one Ted, gets the old brain cogs turning.  I feel the last year or so has been a bit disappointing.  I wonder how much all the availble informatiion on the net is influencing us.  Prior to every major and not so major fights, so many articles are written enthusiastically that the fights often don’t live up to the saturated biuldup.  This Pac & Mayweather drama is not helping.

  21. MRBILL-HARDCORE XXX 03:32pm, 01/08/2012

    Honestly, ever since DLH, Trinidad and Mosley all got old or retired a few years ago, the game has dipped badly… I haven’t really been hot for a fight since 2008 when Tony M. stopped Cotto and V.K. came back to pound Sammy Peter… Yeah, 2009 I saw things fading in boxing… The game is in a slump right now… 2011 offered a series of stinky PPV’s….. How many fans are drooling for “Hopkins-Dawson 2” on PPV for $60 dollars???

  22. the thresher 09:53am, 01/08/2012

    :roll::roll::roll:

  23. the thresher 09:52am, 01/08/2012

    Don, I felt they were more weird than negative and weird for me = funny

    But I get your point. Still, when Margo removed his eyeball and gave it to the commissioners to inspect, that made me smile.

  24. Don From Prov 09:44am, 01/08/2012

    I have to say, Ted, that your list of events that brought back to boxing mostly seem negative ones to me: The malaise lingers—

    At least for me it does.

  25. the thresher 09:09am, 01/08/2012

    Irish Frankie, in that case my memory goes back about 11 years—if you catch my drift :)

  26. the thresher 09:04am, 01/08/2012

    Thanks for the comments, mates. Your feedback is what it’s all about.

  27. Gajjers 09:02am, 01/08/2012

    Great job again, Thresher! You’re damn right, the ref in the Zale vs Graziano rubber-match should have been arrested as soon as the fight ended; to hell with incompetence, that was sadism of an extreme order! Dragging a beaten man’s hands off the ropes just so he can get knocked unconscious! I’m now gonna watch the other gems you lined up - keep up the great work!

  28. Irish Frankie Crawford Beat Saijo 09:00am, 01/08/2012

    Thresher-A lot of boxing devotees have memories shorter than their schwanz’s…..that’s why high caliber historian/analyst/writers like you are crucial to helping the rest of us make sense of things.

  29. Jim Crue 07:21am, 01/08/2012

    another good article.
    Thanks Ted

  30. pugknows 09:48pm, 01/07/2012

    Simply a magnificent piece of boxing writing. Great job, Ted.

  31. Irish Frankie Crawford Beat Saijo 08:59pm, 01/07/2012

    Thresher-Man you can really separate the wheat from the chaff….thanks!

  32. Charlie N 07:57pm, 01/07/2012

    Your right Tex, So many things changed this sport into what we see today. If it isnt the lack of good trainers promoting great boxing skills, then it is the commission calling the fights too early for what would be “little cuts” or “protecting the fighter” judgements, or it simply the fact that so many fighters (many so-called Champs)- lack the animal heart to fight demonstratively against his opponents.
    What we get most of the time is little dance routines will occaisional flurry of soft punches once the ten second warning is heard. Thank God for videos of “The Era” and Ted’s respect for the boxing elite.

  33. the thresher 07:31pm, 01/07/2012

    Round nine in the first fight was unbelievable.

  34. The Pinoy Pikey 07:04pm, 01/07/2012

    Still love to watch Ward vs Gatti, is it round 3 in II, and 9 in III: kinda like the gospel.  Still get watery eyed when I watch them show the amount of respect and affection that they had for each other!

  35. The Pinoy Pikey 07:01pm, 01/07/2012

    Great YouTube clips Ted…Brother, again,  I love you for your advocacy for the little Asian fellas—Keep up the great work and VOICE!  Myung-Woo Yuh…Whew!  It doesn’t matter that he captured the title with fewer than 20 fights on his resume and made close to 20 title defenses: he was a little fella, and only ever fought in Korea and a few other Asian countries!  This is exactly why the IBHOF Elector body needs to be shaken-up—reconfigured: if it isn’t national bias, then it is certainly weight class bias, and to a “cream of the crop” group of Asian fighters, what is the difference.” Agree with you on Zale vs Graziano III, the last stanza wasn’t necessary!

  36. the thresher 06:08pm, 01/07/2012

    Thanks pardner

  37. TEX HASSLER 05:38pm, 01/07/2012

    I agree with the thresher about the referee’s work. Graziano vs Zale fights were classic fights that will probably never be duplicated. There are far too few fighters today for a fighter to develop in to what Ray Robinson, Archie Moore and many others of the past were.

  38. the thresher 04:38pm, 01/07/2012

    The referee’s work in the Zale-Graziano fight was agruably the worse I have ever witnessed. He let a helpless fighter get knocked into the next Solar System.

    Ingo-Macen was bad, but this was just plain murder.

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