Will Chavez Jr. Pass the Test?

By Teron Briggs on February 2, 2012
Will Chavez Jr. Pass the Test?
Chavez has made noticeable strides since joining Freddie Roach (Chris Farina/Top Rank)

Using his father’s longtime connection to the WBC, Chavez Jr. finagled a shot at the title, which HBO didn’t hesitate to use as a main event…

Merriam Webster dictionary defines the term “test” as a “critical examination, observation or evaluation.” On Saturday night at the Alamadome, in San Antonio, Texas, on HBO, that definition will be put to the test as the undefeated WBC middleweight champion, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (44-0-1, 31 KOs), faces the most difficult opponent of his 45-fight career, veteran contender Marco Antonio Rubio (53-5-1, 46 KOs).

The only time Rubio has previously been in a championship match he was thoroughly outclassed over nine lopsided rounds to then-champ Kelly Pavlik (35-1, 31 KOs going in), before quitting on his stool . He was knocked senseless by Kofi Jantuah (27-1, 18 KOs) in one round in 2004, then lost a 12-round decision in 2005 against Kassim Ouma (23-2, 15 KOs). Even in the fight with Lemieux, Rubio was soundly outboxed over the first half of the fight, before making a stirring comeback. What Rubio brings to the table is a 10-fight win streak since his loss to Pavlik in 2009, in which he’s stopped nine of the 10 opponents he’s faced. Rubio knocked out the undefeated and heavily hyped, yet completely untested, young Canadian star David Lemiuex (25-0, 24 KOs at the time) to gain a mandatory shot at the current WBC champion. Still, aside from that impressive upset victory over Lemieux, Rubio hasn’t fared well when he’s stepped up against elite level competition.

Chavez Jr. captured his first world championship by outpointing unheralded Sebastian Zbik (30-0, 10 KOs), in a surprisingly entertaining fight on HBO, after the WBC literally handed the little known boxer its belt. HBO had previously refused to televise a fight between then-recognized WBC champion Sergio Martinez (46-2, 25 KOs) and Zbik, at the time the mandatory, because they discredited Zbik as a legitimate HBO level fighter. Martinez opted to not defend the title without a television partner, which would’ve meant a minuscule payday for him, instead choosing to relinquish the belt for a more lucrative opportunity. Chavez Jr., using his father’s longtime connection to the WBC, finagled a shot at the title, which HBO didn’t hesitate to use as a main event for a World Championship Boxing card. After claiming the belt, he sidestepped Rubio and took an optional defense, once again on HBO, against Peter Manfredo Jr. (37-6, 20 KOs), whom many considered to be a weak challenger. Manfredo barely mounted a challenge and was thoroughly outclassed in five unspectacular rounds.

Chavez Jr.’s story has been well chronicled. When your father is considered to be one of the greatest and most beloved fighters out of Mexico, stardom is essentially your birthright. It was an easy decision for Jr. to follow in his dad’s footsteps and start cashing checks by turning professional at the tender age of 17. Due to his limited amateur background—he had only two fights, both of which were broadcast on Mexican television—Top Rank was forced to move his career at an extremely slow pace following his professional debut in 2003. As rumors spread of him not being dedicated enough to make the sacrifices in and out of the gym, which are required by a world-class athlete, Chavez’s reputation took a huge hit. Even the CEO of Top Rank, Bob Arum, normally his fighters’ biggest cheerleader, admitted to his young star’s undisciplined training habits, which prompted Chavez’s advisers to enlist the Hall of Fame trainer Freddie Roach to join his camp in 2010. Many believe Chavez has made noticeable strides since the pairing with Roach. The skills he’s displayed inside the ring have been a combination of a vicious body attack, a sturdy chin, and relentless aggression, all of which were used to defeat Zbik who, despite having been crowned champion and being undefeated at the time, didn’t have one notable name on his record.

Having been deprived of the opportunity to fully hone his trade in the amateur ranks, the verdict is still very much out on just how talented Chavez Jr. is. If he is successful Saturday night, there has been talk of him possibly facing the recognized champion at middleweight, Sergio Martinez, or one of the sport’s other top stars. On the other hand, if Chavez hasn’t prepared to fight on an elite level, then he’s going to have an awfully tough time passing the test Rubio is sure to present him with.

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  1. "Old Yank" Schneider 05:39am, 02/06/2012

    Robert—As stated earlier, prior reports had labeled Chavez as lazy (undisciplined) and taking his career for granted. A DWI two weeks before a bout is condemning confirmation of such reports.

  2. Robert Ecksel 04:03pm, 02/04/2012

    Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. was arrested for drunk driving on Jan. 22 at 4:38 am by the California Highway Patrol. The news comes out now, on the day of the fight? Do I smell a rat?

  3. "Old Yank" Schneider 06:54am, 02/04/2012

    The pedigree pup of a champion dog who begins collecting blue ribbons as a pup shows off his pedigree early and improves his chances of his pedigree being seen as champion material as an adult. Thus, if Chavez had amateur experience that showed great promise his pedigree (desirable traits passes in an ancestral line) would have been seen sooner. It’s like pulling teeth around here sometimes.

  4. "Old Yank" Schneider 06:47am, 02/04/2012

    Typically when we refer to pedigree it is when certain desirable traits are past in an ancestral line—the mere sharing of ancestral line being insufficient to recognize the pedigree—the emphasis being on the desirable traits passed in the ancestral line. Sometimes a pedigree comes through and shows itself in flying colors and sometimes it does not—i.e. The pup of a champion dog having no chance for a blue ribbon and like Ronald Hearns likely being a no-hope of ever stepping out of his father’s shadow.  My sole point and intent was to state that the desirable traits in the pedigree of Chavez might have shown themselves earlier and clearer if he’d had some amateur experience. And indeed you are correct, “drive by” is not flattering. Time will tell if it is true.

  5. pugknows 11:47pm, 02/03/2012

    Pedigree refers to ancestry, in this case Junior being the son of Senior. It’s in the blood. And by the way, I do believe both are champions. Calling Junior a “drive buy” is nasty in my view.

  6. "Old Yank" Schneider 07:58pm, 02/03/2012

    pugknows—No contention intended. Sorry you took it that way. The measure of a pedigree is a championship line—the more “champion-like”, the stronger the pedigree. Unlike Mayweather, Jr (with the pedigree of a fighting family) who honed a championship pedigree in the amateurs and then in the pros, Chavez, Jr. got a late start in his pedigree by skipping the amateurs. Many current champions and top-10 ranked fighters who are Mexican now show fine amateur careers—including Mexican fighters like Marquez, Mares, Alvarez, Mikey Garcia, and more. Chavez is not like Mexican fighters born into abject poverty, where skipping the amateurs is/was the only way to making a living. My point is that his pedigree could have been stronger had he started earlier like Mayweather for example. Peace.

  7. pugknows 02:17pm, 02/03/2012

    Pedigree has nothing to do with amateur experience. It has to do with his being Julio Cesar Chavez’s son. Anyone who knows anything about Mexican boxing knows that few pros have much of an amateur background. I really don’t get your post except that is seems you want to be contentious.

  8. "Old Yank" Schneider 01:32pm, 02/03/2012

    raxman—The quality of opponent issue that you bring up is more than valid. The “lazy” issue might not apply to this camp as well. Anyone can address a bad old habit and overcome it with determination. I’m going to be watching carefully the rehydration gain. If it is in the 20 pounds or more neighborhood than I will question the value of Ariza’s addition to the camp and/or Chavez’s committment to hard work and conditioning. If a fighter makes 160 and then rehydrates 20 plus pounds overnight it is an indication that something’s wrong. I’m hoping for a release of fight night weight in time (early enough) to either hedge or double up.

  9. raxman 12:34pm, 02/03/2012

    BK Don - the videos on youtube aren’t necessarily promoter released though are they. any hanger on with a mobile (ok a cell) can film a guy training in the gym - and wildcard seems to have a load of them - and in that footage he looks pretty good to me. and as much as i am a critic of roach i can’t believe that he would tolerate anything but 100% commitment - especially given how attached his rep is to the success of his fighters (ie a loss to khan and a poor showing by pac and the boards are full of roach has lost it, the parkinson has got him, threads)
    Yank - those stats are impressive and obviously well researched but surely they’re misleading - if only just a little - coz if you criticize jnr opponents then you must take into consideration the quality of rubio opponent? post pavlik he’s hardly been fighting quality has he?

  10. "Old Yank" Schneider 10:20am, 02/03/2012

    pugknows—I fully agree that Jr is much improved. But without an amateur background he somewhat cheated himself out of the boxing pedigree he might have had if he’d have only started earlier.

  11. pugknows 09:38am, 02/03/2012

    My sense is that he will pass the test and move closer to elite status. His pedigree is pure boxing and it is now starting to emerge. At one point, he wanted to quit because of the pressure and the fact he just didn’t like boxing all that much, but he has finally gotten himself in sync with things and he appears very comfortable in the Roach stable. He has shortened up his punches, developed a strong right cross, uses a jab, uses combinations, and is a little bit better with his defense. As a work in progress, he has come a long way and anyone who underestimates him does so at their own peril.

  12. "Old Yank" Schneider 09:07am, 02/03/2012

    Rubio stopped young Canadian star David Lemiuex – a relatively inexperienced and perhaps one-dimensional fighter but not a club fighter. And Rubio has stopped 9 of his last 10 opponents—not bad.

  13. "Old Yank" Schneider 09:02am, 02/03/2012

    BK Don—You are 100% correct—the level of competition is critically important.

  14. Bk Don 08:45am, 02/03/2012

    Old Yank - i think you bring up a great point w/the numbers your stating, however rubio’s ko rate though high, is a misleading. He’s never ko’d a world class opponent. In fact, the best fighters he’s faced, Pavlik, Ouma, Jantuah & samuel miller,  never even touched the canvas in their fights with him. He’s only shown an ability to ko club fighter type opposition. Rubio never once hurt Pavlik in that fight, who has been down and hurt in bouts before.

  15. bk don 08:35am, 02/03/2012

    Zbik was such an unknown though. I mean, you look at his record and there’s not one name that’s the least be recognizable. There’s almost no way of determining whether the guy was any good. I thought Chavez won that fight based on clean effective punching, as Harold would say, but i thought it was a close fight. Every other name on Chavez’s record he should’ve beat and he should’ve beaten them handedly. I like Rubio by tko. I think he’ll beat up on Chavez to the point that Freddie will have to throw in the towel.

  16. "Old Yank" Schneider 08:11am, 02/03/2012

    Rubio has had success against tall, rangy fighters—i.e. Samuel Miller is 6’ 2” with a 74” reach.

  17. "Old Yank" Schneider 08:10am, 02/03/2012

    There are a lot of fans who think Chavez was handed a gift in the Zbik bout. The feather-fisted Zbik did not have a hard time finding Chavez’s head.

  18. "Old Yank" Schneider 07:57am, 02/03/2012

    Rubio has a career KO ratio of 78%. The average KO ratio of fighters Chavez has faced over the past 4 years is 35%. The heaviest handed fighter he faced in the past 4 years (KO ratio) is John Duddy at 58% (the only fighter Chavez has faced with a KO ratio meaningfully over 45%). To date, the matchmaking for Chavez has largely avoided anyone with a consistent ability to hurt you with a punch. Contrary to popular opinion I do not believe Chavez’s chin has been tested. Rubio was repeatedly rocked in the early going against Pavlik (a very heavy-handed fighter at the time) and managed to stay in the bout for several rounds. Rubio is an experienced fighter who has not shown me that he fights dumb. Throwing to the body opens one up for counters – I expect to see more head-hunting than body work from Chavez. In my opinion, if Chavez concentrates too much on the body, he will find out what it feels like to be on the receiving end of counters from a man with a KO ratio of 78%—something Chavez has yet to experience in his career.

  19. "Old Yank" Schneider 07:41am, 02/03/2012

    Mike—I’m with you—I need to see more from Chavez before I’m convinced he’s more than drive-by entertainment. He is the prohibitive betting favorite and in a sport where anything can happen. Rubio looks like a live dog to me.

  20. BK DON 07:04am, 02/03/2012

    With all due respect Raxmon, i don’t think Top Rank is going record Chavez Jr eating burritos and sipping on a Tecate, Or, skipping training to sleep in with some buxom beauty. Obviously they’re going to show highlights of him working hard in the gym and things of that nature. At the end of the day though the ring will be the ultimate judge of how fit he is to fight. This is all just speculation until then.

  21. mikecasey 05:11am, 02/03/2012

    I still need to see a lot more from junior to convince me he’s the real thing, but I go with Raxman’s prediction here. A late stoppage for Chavez in a tough fight, possibly as late as the 12th.

  22. raxman 04:52am, 02/03/2012

    G’day boys

    i dont even see work ethic as an issue - every video i’ve seen of jnr training at wildcard he looks like he’s going for it. that kids had the equivalent of boxing’s silver spoon in his mouth since he laced em up; the best thing that could’ve happened to him was landing in gym with a big stable of quality fighters. all of a sudden you’re a small fish in a big pond, it’s the sort of thing that makes or breaks and as far as i can tell it’s made chavez jnr.
    if chavez is in as good a shape as he looks he’ll stop rubio between 8-12 so long as he lets his hands go and provides non stop pressure - but with roach angles. if he just stands in front of rubio he’ll get hurt. the success or failure of his attack on rubio’s body in the early rounds will decide the outcome of this fight

  23. "Old Yank" Schneider 05:56pm, 02/02/2012

    David—Chavez is a 4:1 favorite. The odds are right a hell of a lot more than they are wrong. I’m suggesting that Rubio is a live underdog and 4:1 makes for a tempting wager. Rubio has struggled with weight of late as well. This could easily turn into a conditioning duel and if (big if) Chavez is not prepared to go deep and Rubio is, then post-8th round the fight gets real interesting.

  24. David Matthew 03:17pm, 02/02/2012

    I also like Chavez Jr. in this fight…I think he’ll win big and will look great against Rubio.  Jr. does everything Rubio does, but just a lot better.  Lemieux was so amped up and unfocused against Rubio (who has big fight experience) that he just didn’t see Rubio’s punches coming…but I know a lot of people are picking Rubio…I just think people are putting too much stock in his upset of Lemieux.

    That said - I think it’ll be a very entertaining fight to watch.  I was impressed with Jr. in his last outing against Manfredo…I think he’ll showcase a new layer to us Saturday night.

  25. "Old Yank" Schneider 01:13pm, 02/02/2012

    the thresher—I like what you write; it’s understandable why most people do. But tossing around innuendo of writers being sleazy because they report what some of the most influential voices in the sport are saying is, well…what you accuse people of sometimes. I don’t think it polite. The implication that Chavez has shown signs of being lazy is not gossip! It is words from the mouths of influential people in the business—from Top Rank matchmaker Bruce Trampler, to Freddie Roach (Chavez’s trainer) to Alex Ariza (Chavez’s nutrition coach) to Lou DiBella, to Chavez’s own uncle expressing regrets that he could not get Chavez to push himself, and on and on… When do such words move from gossip to news in your book? They say them, I report them—multiple, credible sources all close enough to Chavez to cleanly classify this reporting of Chavez having lazy tendencies as much more than gossip—it’s news and newsworthy!

  26. the thresher 12:23pm, 02/02/2012

    BK Don, WHERE THERE IS SMOKE THERE IS FIRE? Like Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq? I don’t always buy that notion. In fact, it ended up killing tens of thousands of people.

    Boxing is as sleazy as it gets and one can expect sleazy gossip to emerge. But If someone in Junior’s camp tells me something about his training, well then, I’ll listen up because that’s not smoke—that’s burning embers.

    There were similar rumors about Rios when he fought the Brit. He was training as hard as ever but simply could not lose the weight, but it had nothing to do with an attitudinal issue and the Brit’s face was the best evidence of that.

    But I get your point and respect it.

  27. the thresher 12:15pm, 02/02/2012

    “Your stand is commendable, even if not entirely sensible.”

    Most people who have follwed my writings and/or observations during the past many years tend to like what I say and tend to see it as reasonably reliable. A few don’t and have said so, but few have ever called it not sensible. For you, however, it’s just anothet insult,  eh?

    Now then, as far as I am concerned, and I have never wavered on this point, there are few if any credible sources in boxing. I consider myself one based on my vast network of boxing contacts, but I’m not here to blow my own horn or to offer up myself to anyone as a c redible source. I have my global network and that works just fine for me even if it doesn’t seem to work for you.

    But the fact is,  I trust my info more than I trust a self -serving trainer or gossip monger or self-promoting promoter.

    I can stand on my own two feet Yank and debate the issues without piling onto and behind posters. From this point forward, I am putting you on ignore.

    Have a nice day. I’m done on this thread.

  28. "Old Yank" Schneider 11:34am, 02/02/2012

    Bk Don—That’s tellin’ it like it is!

  29. BK Don 11:33am, 02/02/2012

    I understand the reluctance to listen to gossip but when there’s smoke there’s fire. And there’s a huge blaze here. Junior has not always behaved like a true professional when it comes to preparing himself to fight at a world-class level. I think the fact that he didn’t have to learn that at an early age as an amateur plays a large role in that. But when your promoter and your trainer are both questioning your work ethic something is wrong. Beating Rubio won’t make Chavez the Real McCoy to me. Was Kofi Jantuah the Real McCoy, or Kassim Ouma (this can obviously be argued)? Losing to Rubio, however will expose him.

  30. "Old Yank" Schneider 11:29am, 02/02/2012

    A middleweight who rehydrates 20 pounds overnight is a signal that something is likely amiss. Jr is young enough that so far what is likely amiss he’s been able to get away with. Crash weight loss and unusual rehydration overnight will eventually catch up to a fighter. Look, I think Saturday night’s bout will be competitive. Rubio can be a spoiler – a role he’s played before. The book sees Chavez walking away with a relatively easy win. I like the dog bet here.

  31. "Old Yank" Schneider 11:20am, 02/02/2012

    the thresher—Your stand is commendable, even if not entirely sensible. You asked for the source of the “gossip”. I reported it. It does not appear to be gossip but rather reasonably documented fact from multiple credible sources – thus making it infinitely reportable by any writer who does his homework. It comes from Chavez’s trainer Freddie Roach (likely not gossip); from Chavez’s nutritionist Ariza (likely not gossip); from Lou DiBella (possibly gossip); from Chavez’s documented weight issues (not gossip but fact); and more. Competent, credible writers have an obligation to report what people like DiBella, Roach, and Ariza are saying. I don’t know why you would find their words unworthy of reporting, but that’s you, not me. You have a solid rep for needing more than most before you see what others see when a possible offending word could be spoken; and an odd need to pick a fight with me over anything. So be it. From the mouth of those in a position to know and from the very scales Chavez steps on to losing a “W” over the illegal use of diuretics, this writer is reporting that claims are made that Chavez has a tendency to be lazy. I leave it to the reader to decide for himself if the sources and facts cited are credible.

  32. the thresher 10:22am, 02/02/2012

    Rubio will indeed be facing a cruiserweight on Saturday and if anyone cares to notice the vascularity in Junior’s arms, he will be facing a very strong one.

  33. the thresher 10:19am, 02/02/2012

    Er, make that hats off to Pedro Fernandez

  34. the thresher 10:17am, 02/02/2012

    I am not into boxing gossip and I am not into gosspi period. I ‘lll eave that to guys like Dan Rafael and you, Old Yank. What I am into is how does a fighter look when he enters the ring for his fight and Junior will look fit, ready, and very very big.

    I think spreading “gossip” is not becoming a writer, but that’s just a personal view. It might be something handicappers do, but then I don’t konw any handicappers. The guy in Casino maybe.

    If anyone here thinks Chavez will not be ready for Rubio, good luck to you. I have made my point regarding the fight and I am not about to engage in a battle around gossip, particularly when one of the greatest mind f-kkers in boxing (Freddie Roach) has been cited. Puleeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzz.

    As an aside, the only pre-fight news (aka gossip) I ever really embraced was in regard to Kelly Pavlick’s inabilitry to control his personal life. That turned out to be spot on..Hats off to Fernando on the West Coast who was the first to call it.

  35. "Old Yank" Schneider 10:05am, 02/02/2012

    Beating a dead horse: Lou DiBella was pissed that Chavez cancelled the Hearns bout last summer. DiBella will tell you that Chavez was “fat and lazy” and his 185-pound weight at the 30-day safety weigh-in caused the bout to get cancelled. Here is DiBella’s tweet from back then: “Just got word that Chavez pulling out of Hearns fight claiming injury. Horses***! Injury in his 185 lb gut! See nonsense with 30 day weigh-in!” The “gossip” of Chavez being lazy comes from all over the place.

  36. "Old Yank" Schneider 08:45am, 02/02/2012

    Freddie Roach on how lazy Chavez, Jr. can be: “There really was an over-under line of two weeks on how long it would take Julio to make it in our gym.”  When the fighter’s own trainer reveals that people in his gym had an “over/under” pool going on how lazy Chavez would be in showing up to start training, then any one suggesting that they’ve got better inside info should do a second take on the reliability of their sources. The “gossip” of Chavez being lazy has a lot of legs for good reason.

  37. "Old Yank" Schneider 08:36am, 02/02/2012

    The “lazy” label has not been pulled out of thin air. Top Rank matchmaker Bruce Trampler, recently said (about Chavez, Jr), “he tends to be a little lazy”. Chavez has repeatedly struggled with weight (including evidence in his win over Rowland being changed to a NC due to illegal diuretics found in Chavez—used to make weight). In his last bout he was reported to need to shed 10 pounds in the final 48 hours. Between Top Rank’s Trampler and the scales, and “gossip” from multiple corners surrounding Chavez, he likely earned the gossip of being lazy in camp.

  38. Irish Frankie Crawford Beat Saijo 08:19am, 02/02/2012

    Teron Briggs—Great article…..I hope Rubio realizes that he will be facing a Cruiserweight when the bell sounds Saturday night, someone much bigger and stronger than Lemieux who apparently has inherited his dad’s chin. Another thing, he needs to lose that sad sack look that doesn’t exactly exude confidence…..because Junior is full of piss and vinegar and will be ready to rumble from the opening bell. He better not wait too long to get going either or he could risk getting steamrolled just like Manfredo.

  39. the thresher 07:51am, 02/02/2012

    Chavez has a very big body and is deceptively strong. He is 6’ tall with a reach of 73”.

    Rubio has areach of 70’ and is 5’9” tall. I am one who puts a lot of stock in dimensions.

    One of Lemieux’s biggets issues is his 64” reach.

    The dates of the Vanda fights as a common opponent make them academic.

    Also, Rubio has not fought outside of Mexico anywhere near as many times as Junior.

    No, the more I look at this, the more I see Chavez winning and showing us that he is the real McCoy. Heck, as far back as 2005, he went 1-0-1 with current contender Carlos Molina who has not lost since 2007.

    A close analysis of his opposition reveals a carefully selected yet decent level.

    And he pretty much ruined Anthony Shuler’s career.

  40. the thresher 06:40am, 02/02/2012

    Thanks, Teron.

    By the way, who says “Jr has picked up the rep of being a lazy trainer.”  My info said he trains at Wild Card and is very focused and does not take every bout for granted. Who comes up with this gossip?

    Rubio is heavy-handed, but Junior has become a solid body puncher and if he can go to the body early, he will neutralize Rubio’s style. He will then start tagging him the way Pavlik did until he can take no more. At least that is one probable scenario.

    Another is that Rubio will hurt Junior ealy and then close matters becuase he is a great closer. But Junior’s chin is better than most think.

  41. Pete The Sneak 06:01am, 02/02/2012

    I like Rubio’s chances immensely. This is what he has been waiting for. He knows the odds are stacked against him and will come out strong looking for the KO. He needs to keep the pressure on JR every round. All I know is, JR better be in good shape. Peace.

  42. "Old Yank" Schneider 05:11am, 02/02/2012

    Replay the Zbik bout and imagine what might have been if Zbik had more than feathers in his gloves! 1) Rubio will not fade like Zbik did and 2) Rubio can punch like Zbik can’t.

  43. "Old Yank" Schneider 04:59am, 02/02/2012

    This bout comes down to Rubio’s ability to tag Jr once or twice in the second half of the bout. Jr has picked up the rep of being a lazy trainer with weight issues for every bout—seemingly taking every bout for granted. This bout will test just how long Jr can get away with his bad habits. If Rubio makes Jr. work for 8-9 rounds and then picks up the tempo, Rubio will take this bout.

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